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and I was also dead wrong about the NFC West being an easier mountain to climb than the AFC West with Manning
those two QB's...good luck that division had a QUICK turnaround |
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01-13-2013, 07:23 PM | #32 |
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I'm not a big fan of Kaepernick's, in any case, my main point is that I've seen a lot of a first year starters do this kind of thing, then come back to struggle. Newton being the most recent example that comes to mind. Still had a decent season, but more of a decline from last year than a progression. I would not be surprised to see the same for Wilson, and I'd probably temper my expectations in the near-term were I a Seahawks fan. Hope he does well, though. Nice to see a (young - brady doesn't count) big 10 QB playing some good football for a change. And I've always found the Seahawks to be a team that's hard to dislike. |
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Indy was a mirage. The debate is over how much of that credit you give to Luck as opposed to aberrational factors. If you look at FBO, for example, Indy is not only the worst 11-5 team in like 20 years, they were worse than any 10-6 team over the same time span. That suggests a team that was significantly worse than their record. Their Pythagorean W-L was 7-9. They were outscored by opponents. They got destroyed by the Jets and lost at home to Jacksonville. They barely beat the Chiefs. Keep in mind that teams that often outperform Pythag often crater the next year. The 2011 and 2012 Chiefs are examples of that. That's not to say that Luck is not an exceptional QB prospect. However, I think his team's BABIP this year was about .410. I realize that a counterargument could be made that Luck's late-game ability helped elevate the team, and I think there is some merit to it, but if i were a gambling man I would POUND Indy's under next year.
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I'm the type of guy who uses the eye test more than stats...I make my own opinions based off of what I see.
I saw Luck make one of the worst passes I've ever seen in my life against the Chiefs overthrowing a wide open player in the end zone. I think Luck will be great. I think this year he was average. RUSSEL WILSON was off the charts good after about the first 1.5 months of the season. He played like the best QB in the NFL the past two months. Just sensational. He has no weaknesses, being short effects him in no way, and he can do EVERYTHING. His ability to extend the play and make big plays is second to none. He's OMG good. Kaepernick is another guy I was real high on, and he at least made me 50/50 yesterday when I picked the 49ers based off their pass rush and the fact I thought Kaepernick was VASTLY underrated. Well he's underrated no longer. But yeah, these are your new NFL QB's. Luck will be successful and elite but he's a dying breed. These new "hybrid" QB's are going to take over and take over fast. AND I WANT ONE OF MY OWN |
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You guys have a LOT to be hopeful about, that team has heart coming out of its earhole.
NEVER would've thought Pete freakin Carroll could assemble such a mighty, swaggering squad, were i a Seahawk fan i'd be THRILLED with my prospects. |
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I also think Wilson has dashing good looks, I love the fact he was a baseball player, and he is a great interview.
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I take everything back I Said about him after our preseason game. I called him a "preseason hero" and 99 times out of 100 that's usually the case for rookies. Major props to him for his season and hopefully it's a long career. He's a true talent.
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Dare we say
Russel Wilson is maybe even better than RG3 ? He'll probably have a longer career anyway. |
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