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Old 11-14-2004, 09:57 PM   #1
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Yikes! You might as well send an apology to GRob.



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Ya know, I was one of the first to say that Gun would be problematic for this team. I postulated that the hiring of Gun would effectively neuter our offseason acquisitions. Sans, Dalton, I was correct.

I think CP and DV thought Gun would be the medicine that would cure this D. It was like taking asprin for a brain tumor....
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Old 11-14-2004, 09:54 PM   #2
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I agree. Gunther has done sh*t for us so far. He's shown no ability to make adjustments to what teams are burning us with. Offenses come out in the second half adjusted to what we've shown them, and he can't figure out what needs to be done to counter-act it.
Blame Gunther.
Gunther didn't allow the saints to score 27.
Our O gained 500 yards, had 20 points to show for it, and I was routinely castigated in 1999-2000 when Gun's Chiefs id the same. But, oh, Gun hasn't won a SB, so DV has a bye on fielding crappy teams.
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Old 11-14-2004, 09:57 PM   #3
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Blame Gunther.
Gunther didn't allow the saints to score 27.
Our O gained 500 yards, had 20 points to show for it, and I was routinely castigated in 1999-2000 when Gun's Chiefs id the same. But, oh, Gun hasn't won a SB, so DV has a bye on fielding crappy teams.
Yeah, you told us so. You were right. Jackass.
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Old 11-14-2004, 09:58 PM   #4
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Blame Gunther.
Gunther didn't allow the saints to score 27.
Our O gained 500 yards, had 20 points to show for it, and I was routinely castigated in 1999-2000 when Gun's Chiefs id the same. But, oh, Gun hasn't won a SB, so DV has a bye on fielding crappy teams.
Yea, our team is second in the league in scoring, but it's the fault of the offense when we lose.

Look at the top ten teams in scoring. KC is the only one with a losing record.
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Old 11-14-2004, 10:28 PM   #5
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Blame Gunther.
Gunther didn't allow the saints to score 27.
Our O gained 500 yards, had 20 points to show for it, and I was routinely castigated in 1999-2000 when Gun's Chiefs id the same. But, oh, Gun hasn't won a SB, so DV has a bye on fielding crappy teams.
I'm a Gunther fan, but even from my perspective your post is a massive contradiction.

Gunther called a defense that gave up 27 points so how is he off the hook for it?

Sometimes you go out of your way to pull your "I live for the previous two regimes" bullshit on this board.

We know you love Marty and Gunther. It was 4 years ago since Gun was the HC, get the **** over it already.

I don't think anyone could work with the current crop of talent though on defense. Get the man some players and let his schemes work.
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Old 11-14-2004, 09:56 PM   #6
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I will give Gunther a pass until all four of our current secondary starters are gone. If Gunther still thinks these guys can play, then he needs to go as well.
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Old 11-15-2004, 09:22 AM   #7
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I don't blame gun, get him some talented players atleast a few, we have maybe 1 or 2 max on d.
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Old 11-14-2004, 09:38 PM   #8
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Every fucking player on defense, every fucking coach and every fucking other player except Blaylock, Gonzo, Hall, Green and Kennison should be fucking fined after that sorry azzed excuse for a game. I cannot believe the way we make shitty teams like the Bucs and Saints look like playoff teams.

This team has no one to blame but themsleves. This coaching staff should be ebarrassed to call themselves coaches. How much more unprepared can a football team be to win a game against a shitty team, when their backs are firmly against the wall? How many times can a team shoot itself it the foot and do everything in it's power to keep from winning a game?

If Dick Vermeil is a coach worth having then I'm a fucking rocket scientist. GET AWAY FROM OUR TEAM NOW YOU FxCKING POS!

The good news is I finally picked a Chiefs game correctly for the first time this year in my pool.
Don't hold back man. Let it out.
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Old 11-14-2004, 09:59 PM   #9
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The Head Coach sustains all blame/credit. We'w rolling up the biggest stats of all time. Sub-.500 record. And you people loathed Marty? At least we were in the hunt EVERY year. DV has made us a serious contender once in 4 seasons...
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Old 11-14-2004, 10:42 PM   #10
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A true fan wants what is best for his team.
That is manifestly not Dick Vermiel at this juncture.
Thinkest thou otherwise?
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Old 11-14-2004, 10:44 PM   #11
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A true fan wants what is best for his team.
That is manifestly not Dick Vermiel at this juncture.
Thinkest thou otherwise?
You were never willing to give Vermeil a shot because it took away a maulball philosophy that you were in love with.

That's the only reason that you didn't like Vermeil.

The one constant in this equation is Carl Peterson, but commonly you always like to give him a pass in these arguments.
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