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12-22-2004, 03:11 PM

Do you agree. I hear all you talking about MLB but we can't keep throwing picks at that position. Kawika and beisel might be able to handle it there.

OLB might be needed in the draft but I want Corner or Defensive end.

Agree ?

tk13 · 12-22-2004, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

A rookie would be no worse than Bartee. IMO the odds are actually in favor of the rookie playing BETTER than "never turn my head, give up on plays" Bill.

It would be an improvement without a doubt, but I think you'd have an even bigger improvement with a veteran and a rookie. At this point I don't care how the improvement gets done or if some 1st round draft pick has to start his first year as a nickel corner, if it makes the team better and gives us a shot to win the Super Bowl next year it needs to be done.

greeneggsandham · 12-22-2004, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

PEOPLE PLEASE GET OVER MAZ HE IS DONE

maz is a good leader, but he's too slow imo.

need more pure talent at the position.

Hoover · 12-22-2004, 04:57 PM

Maz was one hell of a special teams player but to be 100% honest he never did anything at MLB. He was OK and held his own. We at the planet go gaga over players who come from nothing to make it in the NFL. Face it Maz was never a good NFL MLB.

philfree · 12-22-2004, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Hasn't worked through 14 games this season, I doubt it will happen next season. I certainly wouldn't take that risk.

But what do I know? Our coaching staff thought it best to start a converted DE at MLB on opening day, so I obviously have no clue

Mitchell has only started 10 games at MLB this year. The last 5 he's shown much improvement. IMO he's starting to get it .As far as Beisel starting the season at MLB that was due in large part ot Mitchell being injured during training camp. IMO it's to early to give up on Mitchell as our starting MLB.

PhilFree

Hoover · 12-22-2004, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Mitchell has only started 10 games at MLB this year. The last 5 he's shown much improvement. IMO he's starting to get it .As far as Beisel starting the season at MLB that was due in large part ot Mitchell being injured during training camp. IMO it's to early to give up on Mitchell as our starting MLB.

PhilFree

I agree, but I'd still go after Hartwell.

tk13 · 12-22-2004, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Maz was one hell of a special teams player but to be 100% honest he never did anything at MLB. He was OK and held his own. We at the planet go gaga over players who come from nothing to make it in the NFL. Face it Maz was never a good NFL MLB.

Last two years:

9-0 with healthy Maz

10-12 without healthy Maz

Read 'em and weep. Puts flame-reerunant suit on

greeneggsandham · 12-22-2004, 05:03 PM

do i remember correctly that monty B did fairly well when he did start? or is that just me?

Fairplay · 12-22-2004, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

PEOPLE PLEASE GET OVER MAZ HE IS DONE

heh, no doubt. I don't see why people think that.

greeneggsandham · 12-22-2004, 05:05 PM

i dunno if anybody here remembers him...

some guy named scanlon (cant remember first name) played pretty well in the preseason. isn't he a LB on the practice squad?

Hoover · 12-22-2004, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Last two years:

9-0 with healthy Maz

10-12 without healthy Maz

Read 'em and weep. Puts flame-reerunant suit on

Whatever. Like the offense didn't have anything to do with.

Newsflash our Defense sucked when we were 9-0 last year

tk13 · 12-22-2004, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Whatever. Like the offense didn't have anything to do with.

Newsflash our Defense sucked when we were 9-0 last year

I know, it could just be a coincedence, but don't forget that Maz made a lot of the adjustments and calls at the line.... yardage-wise there wasn't a ton of difference but in terms of points and turnovers, there was a sharp difference from Maz and when Kawika stepped in. We had something like 27 turnovers in the first 9 games and 8 in the final 8... and more importantly just about every time the defense was forced to have to step up in the 4th quarter during that 9-0 stretch (Baltimore, Denver, Green Bay, Oakland), the defense got it done. Since Maz went out there have been very few times where the defense has had to make a stop and succeeded. Honestly I do believe Maz played most of that Cincy game but considering he didn't play after that he was obviously playing hurt and even then the defense didn't get completely annihilated like it did by Denver/Minnesota/Indy at the end of the year... I don't even think Maz was all world but it's pretty obvious he was the brains of the defense.

Fairplay · 12-22-2004, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by greeneggsandham

i dunno if anybody here remembers him...

some guy named scanlon (cant remember first name) played pretty well in the preseason. isn't he a LB on the practice squad?

Good question. I read on this forum a couple guys really like him. I think they get aroused at the mention of his name even.

suds79 · 12-22-2004, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by warpaint99

Do you agree. I hear all you talking about MLB but we can't keep throwing picks at that position. Kawika and beisel might be able to handle it there.

OLB might be needed in the draft but I want Corner or Defensive end.

Agree ?

I agree with you that a FA MLB and then by drafting a corner is an option but I couldn't disagree more with the notion of Kawika being able to handle it at MLB.

That guy is one of the biggest trash players I've ever seen.

While Defensive End would hurt, I just feel we need a high quality corner in the worse kind of way.

Fairplay · 12-22-2004, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Last two years:

9-0 with healthy Maz

10-12 without healthy Maz

Read 'em and weep. Puts flame-reerunant suit on

Maz was the sole cause why we were 9-0 with him. Ok..........

royr17 · 12-22-2004, 05:48 PM

Hey what about FS Donte Nickolson in the 2nd round from Oklahoma ?

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