Hartwell's first week with the Falcons - Page 3

shaneo69 · 03-25-2005, 02:36 PM

From Pastabelly's 3/25 TipSheet...

The defending NFC South champions apparently got even more than they thought with the signing of unrestricted middle linebacker Ed Hartwell of the Baltimore Ravens. The Falcons personnel people knew Hartwell was a productive player and a high-character guy, but when he arrived at the team's complex on Wednesday, the first thing he did was ask for a defensive playbook, and the second thing was to hole himself up in the film room for several hours, reviewing video of his new teammates. "He already convened a meeting of the linebackers to figure out a schedule for when they would all come in and lift weights together," vice president of football operations Ron Hill said. "You can't help but love the guy."

Too bad we missed out on this guy. Sounds like a real leader.

beavis · 03-25-2005, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

BTW, you need to stop listening to the media as much. Just because some fat ass behind a typewriter decided to brand Bell is injury prone, doesn't really mean he is. Stats don't always show the whole story.

Thanks for the info, I'll take it under advisement.

shaneo69 · 03-25-2005, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

Kendrell Bell, when healthy, is a star...An instant Pro Bowl LB.

You may be over-rating him a bit. He's been healthy 3 out of 4 years, but made only one Pro Bowl, correct?

TRR · 03-25-2005, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69

You may be over-rating him a bit. He's been healthy 3 out of 4 years, but made only one Pro Bowl, correct?

I wouldn't recommend correlating Pro Bowl invites to on field success.

You could be right though....I might be over-rating him.

TEX · 03-25-2005, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

Hartwell was the best FA LB because Bell had an injury concern. Bottom line is that if Bell wouldn't have been hurt last season, he never would have been a FA. He would have been franchised by Pittsburgh. Hartwell is a solid player, not spectacular, not a star. Just plain old solid. Kendrell Bell, when healthy, is a star...An instant Pro Bowl LB.

Sure, in Pittsburgh's defense he was a Pro Bowler. The deal is Bell was injured so you can't discount that. Given the situation between the two, Hartwell has less question marks and the market said so as well. CP got Bell for the "player coming off an injury price" rather than the "former Pro Bowler price," which is they way it should have been. IMO, I'd still take Hartwell over Bell, but I am glad we signed Bell.

Pitt Gorilla · 03-25-2005, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Sure, in Pittsburgh's defense he was a Pro Bowler. The deal is Bell was injured so you can't discount that. Given the situation between the two, Hartwell has less question marks and the market said so as well. CP got Bell for the "player coming off an injury price" rather than the "former Pro Bowler price," which is they way it should have been. IMO, I'd still take Hartwell over Bell, but I am glad we signed Bell.

I originally thought Hartwell would be better, but I'm pretty sure he isn't a 3 down guy. Hartwell just doesn't have the speed of a guy like Bell, who can blitz well and play in coverage. Side to side, both healthy, Bell is the better backer.

teedubya · 03-25-2005, 04:17 PM

I miss Ed Hartwell, *sniff.

He will always be a Chief in my mind.

Cannibal · 03-25-2005, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tyton75

Pastabelly wrote that just to piss us off because he was perusing the web one day.. found Chiefsplanet... and saw us mocking him...

he responded with this article just to piss us off...

sidenote... it took him 36 hours straight to type this article because his fingers are like Bratwursts!

Fatass!

He needs a dialing wand.

Pants · 03-25-2005, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by beavis

Thanks for the info, I'll take it under advisement.

No problem, dude.

I mean Bell IS really injury prone, right? You knew that throughout his whole 4-year career.

KC Kings · 03-25-2005, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

I wish I saved that article about Johnnie Morton when he came to KC. It read just like this one. Old JM came in and requested game tapes of the KC offense, etc. He was showing all of our WR's how his workout regimen works, etc.

Where did that get him?

This is is coming out year. It takes most player 5 years to get used to grass after playing on turf.

TRR · 03-25-2005, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Sure, in Pittsburgh's defense he was a Pro Bowler. The deal is Bell was injured so you can't discount that. Given the situation between the two, Hartwell has less question marks and the market said so as well. CP got Bell for the "player coming off an injury price" rather than the "former Pro Bowler price," which is they way it should have been. IMO, I'd still take Hartwell over Bell, but I am glad we signed Bell.

And what's funny is Hartwell has never been a Pro Bowler in the Ravens defense...Arguably better than Pittsburgh's. Considering Peterson, Vermeil, Bell and his agent say he could play if there was a game tonight...I will discount the "injury prone" theory.

unlurking · 03-25-2005, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69

You may be over-rating him a bit. He's been healthy 3 out of 4 years, but made only one Pro Bowl, correct?

One pro-bowl as a starter, one as an alternate. He went out in 2002 with the ankle injury after trying to come back to soon.

So in actuality, he was available to go to the pro bowl 2 out of 4 years (not 3 of 4), and went both.

**alanm** · 03-25-2005, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Hartwell was the best FA LB available. The CHIEFS had a shot but chose Bell instead. Had it been me, Hartwell would have been my guy. I'm just glad we did SOMETHING!

Wrong on so many levels. Bell is the better LB. Has been, and will continue to be.

C-Mac · 03-25-2005, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

Hartwell was the best FA LB because Bell had an injury concern. Bottom line is that if Bell wouldn't have been hurt last season, he never would have been a FA. He would have been franchised by Pittsburgh. Hartwell is a solid player, not spectacular, not a star. Just plain old solid. Kendrell Bell, when healthy, is a star...An instant Pro Bowl LB.

C-Mac · 03-25-2005, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ali Chi3fs

I miss Ed Hartwell, *sniff.

He will always be a Chief in my mind.

Wallcrawler · 03-25-2005, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69

You may be over-rating him a bit. He's been healthy 3 out of 4 years, but made only one Pro Bowl, correct?

Considering he was selected to the Pro Bowl in his rookie season, Id say he has a great deal of talent. Look how many linebackers have played their entire careers without a pro bowl.

And, as previously stated, he was selected again as an alternate.

I hadnt realised that Hartwell had not been to a pro bowl until I read it here and it made me think about it. Hartwell is solid, but just being solid doesnt get you many pro bowls.

Kendrell Bell is a better candidate to make the big play on defense that totally destroys an offensive play, causing a turnover, sack, or tackle for loss, rather than Hartwell who is just going to be in the right place to make the tackle each play.

03-25-2005, 02:36 PM
shaneo69 Smug Weasel Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bleachers at Busch Casino cash: $10004900	Hartwell's first week with the Falcons From Pastabelly's 3/25 TipSheet... The defending NFC South champions apparently got even more than they thought with the signing of unrestricted middle linebacker Ed Hartwell of the Baltimore Ravens. The Falcons personnel people knew Hartwell was a productive player and a high-character guy, but when he arrived at the team's complex on Wednesday, the first thing he did was ask for a defensive playbook, and the second thing was to hole himself up in the film room for several hours, reviewing video of his new teammates. "He already convened a meeting of the linebackers to figure out a schedule for when they would all come in and lift weights together," vice president of football operations Ron Hill said. "You can't help but love the guy." Too bad we missed out on this guy. Sounds like a real leader.
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