Dolphin fans take on the latest offer by the Chiefs - Page 3

Stinger · 11:50 PM

What the Dolphins fans think of King Carl

and his low ball tatics on Pat Surtain.

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/sh...8&page=1&pp=15

beer bacon · 03-30-2005, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by melbar

Are you kidding me? Surtain is great, a healthy Law is one of the greatest CB's in NFL history. If he returns healthy he brings an instant swagger back to our secondary. Besides the fact we can sign a CB from the greatetest class in recent memory AND a good young DE or LB.

Speaking of a good young DE, I don't know exactly why, but I am starting to become enamored with Merriman. I think Gun would have most quarterbacks pissing their pants by halftime if he had Allen, Bell, and Merriman to work with.

melbar · 03-30-2005, 03:05 AM

Theres a lot of talent in the top 18 or so picks. There are also 7 or so CB's who could start right away in the NFL . One of those is sure to fall to our 2nd round pick. All the more reason to hold onto it!

beer bacon · 03-30-2005, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by melbar

Theres a lot of talent in the top 18 or so picks. There are also 7 or so CB's who could start right away in the NFL . One of those is sure to fall to our 2nd round pick. All the more reason to hold onto it!

My hopes for the trade for Surtain has beomce at the very best (for us) giving them a 2nd for next year. I would be very happy with giving them a 4th or 5th this year and a 2nd next year. If we could get Surtain and keep our 2nd this year I would be ecstatic.

melbar · 03-30-2005, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by beer baron

My hopes for the trade for Surtain has beomce at the very best (for us) giving them a 2nd for next year. I would be very happy with giving them a 4th or 5th this year and a 2nd next year. If we could get Surtain and keep our 2nd this year I would be ecstatic.

We have 3 , so why not a 4th AND a 5th?

beer bacon · 03-30-2005, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by melbar

We have 3 , so why not a 4th AND a 5th?

I would be fine with that. We are not going to be able to sign all our draft picks anyways.

Big Chief Homer · 03-30-2005, 08:20 AM

"it'll be fun watching them score 35 points and still lose"

Dolphin fans need to stay out of the sun.at least we can score 35 points.

it'll be fun watching them try to score 3 points with AJ 2nd round feeley and gus ferrote behind center.

whoman69 · 03-30-2005, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalRaider

Sorry but the Chiefs FO has completely lost it. If the Fins hang onto Surtain this year, they're pretty much assured of getting a compensatory 3rd rounder when they lose him as a FA a year from now... yet the Chiefs FO thinks the Fins are dumb enough to deal him for a 4th... No wonder you guys can't get any free agents in here.

I think you missed the part of the article when it said that the 4th is the highest offer they have received. It would be idiotic for us to bump straight from a 4th to a 2nd. We have plenty of 2nd day picks to use.
If we do what most here want to do, it would be as idiotic as a person at an auction raising the bid price from $10K to $100K.
Saban is going to have a poor team, you can't just go from dud to top of the heap that quickly with as many holes as they have. His only hope is to get picks and put them into the lineup to get them ready. If a 4th is the highest they have, well then asking for a 2nd is miles apart. He is going to have to take what he is given. Its ridiculous to pay a superstar athlete on a bad team. They will drive their salaries down this year so they can afford a push later when they are ready.

RedNFeisty · 03-30-2005, 08:40 AM

"If" Surtain can come in a make an impact from the start, what is the problem giving up a second rounder? It's not like Carl is good at drafting anyway, right?

**alpha_omega** · 03-30-2005, 08:47 AM

Interesting reading what the Dolphin fans think. It seems that they are forgetting one thing....Surtain doesn't want to be there.

whoman69 · 03-30-2005, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNFeisty

"If" Surtain can come in a make an impact from the start, what is the problem giving up a second rounder? It's not like Carl is good at drafting anyway, right?

Despite his drafting history of late, you can't just assume he will fug it up. Why pay more than you have to?

FloridaMan88 · 03-30-2005, 01:11 PM

Don Banks, in his SI.com column today mentioned the possible Surtain trade, his thoughts:

No way should Miami settle for anything lower than a first-day draft pick for cornerback Patrick Surtain. And if I'm Kansas City, with its crying need for an upgrade in the secondary, I'm paying that price in a heartbeat. The potential trade recently became even more of a no-brainer for the Chiefs when they were awarded a 2005 third-round compensatory pick for losing offensive tackle John Tait to Chicago in free agency last year.

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FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $2912906	Don Banks, in his SI.com column today mentioned the possible Surtain trade, his thoughts: No way should Miami settle for anything lower than a first-day draft pick for cornerback Patrick Surtain. And if I'm Kansas City, with its crying need for an upgrade in the secondary, I'm paying that price in a heartbeat. The potential trade recently became even more of a no-brainer for the Chiefs when they were awarded a 2005 third-round compensatory pick for losing offensive tackle John Tait to Chicago in free agency last year.
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