Charger Fans are not afraid of the Chiefs. - Page 3

**sd4chiefs** · 04-26-2005, 06:29 PM

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C-Mac · 04-26-2005, 08:09 PM

Marty will have a very competetive team and if we hadnt dramatically improved the defense, they could take both games again. But since the D is going to be back in KC, the tables will turn. The Chiefs should only beat themselves this coming year, for there is far too much talent for any excuses now.

jspchief · 04-26-2005, 08:17 PM

Considering the ass kicking their second stringers handed us last season, you can hardly blame them for being a bit cocky.

Personally, I'm holding my breath until we actually do something other than improve on paper.

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C-Mac · 04-26-2005, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Considering the ass kicking their second stringers handed us last season, you can hardly blame them for being a bit cocky.

Personally, I'm holding my breath until we actually do something other than improve on paper.

All due respect, but Surtain, Bell, Knight are more than paper, they are proven quality players and the last game with their second stringers, was the last game of a lost season, how much do you really put in that?

jspchief · 04-26-2005, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Mac

All due respect, but Surtain, Bell, Knight are more than paper, they are proven quality players and the last game with their second stringers, was the last game of a lost season, how much do you really put in that?

This wouldn't be the first time that a group of stars didn't mesh to make a good team. So far all we have done is improve on paper. Period. I'm fairly confident that it will equate to more than that, but I'm also hesitant to run my mouth too. At this point I'd rather let my team's play do the talking. Ask me tommorrow and I may feel different.

And as far as the performance of our team in that last game, I realize we mailed it in and played like a bunch of quitters. But if I were a Chargers fan, I might not see it that way. All I'm saying is that you can hardly blame them for being cocky, not too unlike the way we were after '03.

Spott · 04-26-2005, 08:37 PM

The best thing is that they all still believe in Marty. The sad thing is that a lot of us believed that same BS about 8-10 years ago.

whoman69 · 04-26-2005, 08:38 PM

I think at times the Chargers got the job done last year with smoke and mirrors. Our experience last year can show how quickly a team that is not complete can fall back to Earth. Brees finally showed something last year, but who knows if he reverts to form. Certainly if their line falls apart, they are doomed.
I notice some said we did not have a pass rush when they only had 29 sacks last year to our 41. Our pass rush should be improved this year with better players in the front 7 and and improved secondary.

Chiefnj · 04-26-2005, 09:41 PM

Why should anyone fear a team that hasn't won a playoff game in over 10 years?

Wallcrawler · 04-26-2005, 10:03 PM

Ill let them have their fun, for now.

There are things going for the Chargers to support their craptalking.

1. Adding a bunch of guys to the team is good, but as we've seen before, particularly with the Redskins, on paper doesnt mean anything. On the field is what counts. When we see these guys playing together as a unit, Ill go away from that view more and more, but right now, its still just on paper potential.

2. The last time the Chiefs played the Chargers, very few starters saw action, and they kicked the living crap out of the Chiefs, with very little trouble. Our "superbowl caliber" offense was rendered completely ineffective by the Charger JV Squad.

3. Typically, games in the AFC West are usually close, no matter what type of year either team is having. That nice assbeating that the Chiefs put on Dungver at Arrowhead 45-17 was cool, but usually the games are pretty close, due to the teams playing against each other twice a year every year. In close games, anything can happen, and anyone can win.

But, on the other hand, Drew Brees has to prove that he is more than a one year wonder. The Chargers could have experienced a season much like the Chiefs 13-3 year in which strength of schedule made them appear much better than they actually were.

Shawne Merriman was a nice draft choice for the Chargers, but if they are disregarding the Derrick Johnson pick by KC, then they are really being ignorant, not objective. The Chiefs had a pretty good pass rush before these additions with 41 sacks, and now with the additions to all 3 tiers of the defense, you can figure on that number going up. The Chargers pass rush wasnt all that great, only giving them 29 sacks. Shawne Merriman better step up early and often to get those numbers up, because if Green is allowed to stand back there all day, its over.

I dont figure either team will be blown away this upcoming year. I figure on seeing the usual intense contests that the AFC West games usually are.

**alanm** · 04-26-2005, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Mac

Marty will have a very competetive team and if we hadnt dramatically improved the defense, they could take both games again. But since the D is going to be back in KC, the tables will turn. The Chiefs should only beat themselves this coming year, for there is far too much talent for any excuses now.

The Chiefs do a good enough job of beating themselves most every year. Outside of the 1st Denver game that slipped away from them in the 3rd quarter and the last game at home against SD where they didn't even bother to show up. We were in every game last season.

ChiefsCountry · 04-26-2005, 10:39 PM

This one bundle of sticks said the tight ends are a wash. Please Tony could wax Gates anyday.

Spicy McHaggis · 04-26-2005, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

It just kills me that after one decent season in like 20 years, they think they are bullet proof. It will be fun kicking their butts again this year.

Amen to that. Bolts fans just need to realize that they gotta go sit back at the kids table again. The men need to eat.

Spicy McHaggis · 04-26-2005, 10:56 PM

I loved this quote "Lorenzo Neal will drill a hole through "dj."

Man, that's awesome. Neal is about 2 months away from needing a walker and gained less yards on the ground last year than Trent did. I really hope we sweep these guys and just bury them at least one game.

Wallcrawler · 04-27-2005, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis

I loved this quote "Lorenzo Neal will drill a hole through "dj."

Man, that's awesome. Neal is about 2 months away from needing a walker and gained less yards on the ground last year than Trent did. I really hope we sweep these guys and just bury them at least one game.

Neal is pretty old now, but the yardage stat really doesnt mean anything. Lorenzo Neal is one of the better blocking fullbacks in the league, and besides, why would you have Lorenzo Neal carrying the ball when you have his blocking skills, and Tomlinson in the backfield?

As for Neal drilling a hole through DJ, I would say to that person that said that, that Neal had better eat his Wheaties that particular morning, because with Johnson's speed, Neal will be lucky to even get into position in time to get a finger on him, much less make a decent block.

Abba-Dabba · 04-27-2005, 03:48 AM

The Charger fans have alot to be proud of with their team. I really don't like to get into the prediction business so I will not claim to know who will come out on top in the AFCW when all is said and done. One thing I do know is that Marty, while not having very much success in the playoffs is a hellava regular season coach. No doubt about it. I have no doubt he will have the Chargers in contention for the playoffs, again. And I have no doubt that he has assembled a fine team in SD that should be the Chiefs main competition for the division title. What Marty does have is consistency, a trait that you will find among the top tier of coaches.

We can sit here and say Marty is not on in the upper echelon of coaches because of his failure in the playoffs. IMO it is a injustice to his coaching to claim that. IMO it is sheer stupidity to even think that. Let me tell you about one of the greatest coaches in sports history. His first name is Dean, last name Smith. Can anyone tell me how long it took this Dean Smith to win a national title? Well, before you answer that let me go ahead and tell you. It took Dean Smith 21yrs, yes 21yrs to win a national title. As Marty enters his 20th year as a head coach I can't help but think that his time is coming, and it will come, oh yes it will come. And it will come at our expense more than likely.

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04-26-2005, 10:03 PM	#39
Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $4172912	Ill let them have their fun, for now. There are things going for the Chargers to support their craptalking. 1. Adding a bunch of guys to the team is good, but as we've seen before, particularly with the Redskins, on paper doesnt mean anything. On the field is what counts. When we see these guys playing together as a unit, Ill go away from that view more and more, but right now, its still just on paper potential. 2. The last time the Chiefs played the Chargers, very few starters saw action, and they kicked the living crap out of the Chiefs, with very little trouble. Our "superbowl caliber" offense was rendered completely ineffective by the Charger JV Squad. 3. Typically, games in the AFC West are usually close, no matter what type of year either team is having. That nice assbeating that the Chiefs put on Dungver at Arrowhead 45-17 was cool, but usually the games are pretty close, due to the teams playing against each other twice a year every year. In close games, anything can happen, and anyone can win. But, on the other hand, Drew Brees has to prove that he is more than a one year wonder. The Chargers could have experienced a season much like the Chiefs 13-3 year in which strength of schedule made them appear much better than they actually were. Shawne Merriman was a nice draft choice for the Chargers, but if they are disregarding the Derrick Johnson pick by KC, then they are really being ignorant, not objective. The Chiefs had a pretty good pass rush before these additions with 41 sacks, and now with the additions to all 3 tiers of the defense, you can figure on that number going up. The Chargers pass rush wasnt all that great, only giving them 29 sacks. Shawne Merriman better step up early and often to get those numbers up, because if Green is allowed to stand back there all day, its over. I dont figure either team will be blown away this upcoming year. I figure on seeing the usual intense contests that the AFC West games usually are. __________________ She did not open her eyes this morning. I don't know what else to say.
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04-27-2005, 03:48 AM	#45
Abba-Dabba MVP Join Date: May 2001 Casino cash: $4502970	The Charger fans have alot to be proud of with their team. I really don't like to get into the prediction business so I will not claim to know who will come out on top in the AFCW when all is said and done. One thing I do know is that Marty, while not having very much success in the playoffs is a hellava regular season coach. No doubt about it. I have no doubt he will have the Chargers in contention for the playoffs, again. And I have no doubt that he has assembled a fine team in SD that should be the Chiefs main competition for the division title. What Marty does have is consistency, a trait that you will find among the top tier of coaches. We can sit here and say Marty is not on in the upper echelon of coaches because of his failure in the playoffs. IMO it is a injustice to his coaching to claim that. IMO it is sheer stupidity to even think that. Let me tell you about one of the greatest coaches in sports history. His first name is Dean, last name Smith. Can anyone tell me how long it took this Dean Smith to win a national title? Well, before you answer that let me go ahead and tell you. It took Dean Smith 21yrs, yes 21yrs to win a national title. As Marty enters his 20th year as a head coach I can't help but think that his time is coming, and it will come, oh yes it will come. And it will come at our expense more than likely.
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