Pete Pricksco's top 10 QB. Trent Green #8 ... WTF??? - Page 3

Kerberos · 06-15-2005, 07:16 PM

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/positi...ankings/OFF/QB

Green at #8 ????? Thats Bullshit ... I would put him before Brett Farve and Steve McNair. Farve is close to being done and McNair is a walking injury report for the last couple of years .... '

I don't get this at all .... Pricksco is a dick ... pun intended!

1. Peyton Manning, Colts How much more can he do from a statistical standpoint? Now it's time to win the ring.
2. Tom Brady, Patriots He doesn't put up big numbers, but he gets it done when it counts. The guy is a legitimate star.
3. Daunte Culpepper, Vikings If not for Manning's amazing season, we'd all be talking about what Culpepper did. Now comes the hard part: Doing it without Randy Moss.
4. Donovan McNabb, Eagles When he finally got a legitimate weapon in Terrell Owens we saw how good McNabb can be. He elevated his game last season.
5. Michael Vick, Falcons He's a magical player at times, but he has to improve his passing. When that happens, look out.
6. Brett Favre, Packers He can still make some amazing plays with his arm, but he's not the same player he was a few years back. But we're glad he's back for another season.
7. Steve McNair, Titans Injuries crippled him last season, but he decided to keep playing instead of retiring. He's lost some weight and he's healthy again. But his team is crumbling around him.
8. Trent Green, Chiefs He had another huge year in 2004 from a numbers standpoint. He knows how to move the chains.
9. Matt Hasselbeck, Seahawks He started slow in 2004, but he came on in the end. With a new, fat contract, he's the man in Seattle. With no more worries, he should play more relaxed.
10. Chad Pennington, Jets The one concern with Pennington is his rotator cuff injury. Will he get his velocity back? If not, the Jets are in trouble.

WTF?????

Pricksco =

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Dawson4004 · 06-15-2005, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Hmmm... sorry, that didn't push me over the top.

Tell me what would? high completion %, low int numbers, high QB rating?

Mile High Mania · 06-15-2005, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dawson4004

Tell me what would? high completion %, low int numbers, high QB rating?

Consistent production at a high level... Pennington and Vick just don't have it. I don't have issues with McNair being talked about top 10, but injuries, age and the loss of guys like Mason are going to hurt him.

Coach · 06-15-2005, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Consistent production at a high level... Pennington and Vick just don't have it. I don't have issues with McNair being talked about top 10, but injuries, age and the loss of guys like Mason are going to hurt him.

I can agree with that. However, it'll also depend on the health of Chris Brown as well. If Brown put up big numbers, then that helps McNair alot.

I guess it depends on their offensive line. If they are bad, then McNair will be pretty much scrambling for his life.

Dawson4004 · 06-15-2005, 08:17 PM

I agree about McNair and Vick, but Pennington has a career QB rating of 93.7. Thats pretty good. Completion % of 65%, not to bad.

But not good enough to put him in the top 10?

Coach · 06-15-2005, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dawson4004

I agree about McNair and Vick, but Pennington has a career QB rating of 93.7. Thats pretty good. Completion % of 65%, not to bad.

But not good enough to put him in the top 10?

Well, to me, it's debateable. He had somewhat good success under Hackett, although not many people like Hackett and all. But now that he has a new offensive coordinator, it could hurt Pennington about the fact that he'll have to learn a brand new playbook with probably new terminology.

I guess also another factor is his shoulder injury that he had sufferend this past season. Is he 100% recovered from that? Only time will tell.

Dawson4004 · 06-15-2005, 08:22 PM

True, but so far I think he has proven to be a top ten QB. If he continues to be that is yet to be determined.

AirForceChief · 06-15-2005, 08:23 PM

IMO, there's just not that much difference in the "top Ten" QBs...They're all outstanding. I would have Trent at #6 v. #8, moving Favre and McNair down respectively. But in the end, no biggie..

Frazod · 06-15-2005, 08:24 PM

Ranks Vick as a Top 10 QB and criticizes his passing in the same sentence.

That should tell you all you need to know about Pricksco.

Kerberos · 06-15-2005, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

That should tell you all you need to know about Pricksco.

YUP.....

Pricksco =

suds79 · 06-15-2005, 08:44 PM

Putting Michael Vick in the top ten of QBs and then questioning his passing skills is like saying Joe Blow RB is one of the league's 10 best but his vision when running is poor.

When he learns how to pass watch out. Give me a break. Michael Vick can't pass for cr@p and at very best could become an average passer if that.

Red Dawg · 06-15-2005, 11:42 PM

How come Plummer didn't make the list?

Probably the int's held him back.

**Rausch** · 06-15-2005, 11:48 PM

While Favre has definitely lost a lot of his touch and physical skill I still would only take 2 QB's over him were I to start some imaginary expansion team (Brady and Manning.)

I can see Brady, Manning, Favre, and McNabb....but the rest?

Uh, no...

**Tribal Warfare** · 06-16-2005, 01:49 AM

personally I'm not a real big Culpepper fan all he does is throw jump balls Even if Moss is gone he still has atheletic WRs with great heigh and jumping ability

**Rausch** · 06-16-2005, 02:34 AM

Crotchpopper is the kind of QB that makes McNabb shake his head and answer stupid questions...

Wallcrawler · 06-16-2005, 03:50 AM

I cant figure out how the quarterback of the highest scoring offense in the league for the past three years isnt any higher than 10 on this list.

Without Trent Green, this offense is in BIG trouble. If Johnnie Morton had not bitched up at the end of the year for the final 3 games, he very well could have reached the 1,000 yard mark receiving. That would have made THREE 1,000 yard receivers for the Chiefs offense. That to me is the mark of a GREAT quarterback, not having to simply rely on one bigtime playmaker to complete the passes.

Yeah, we have Priest and L.J., but without Trent Green this offense would not be close to producing the results that they have.

Had KC had a defense these past three seasons and not cost the Chiefs so many games, Im pretty sure Green would be ranked a lot higher on that list.

Vick is nothing. The falcons play in a weak ass conference, and they were all about the rushing attack. They led the league in total yards on the ground. Between Dunn, Duckett, and Vick, the coaching staff managed to overcome Vick's shortcomings as a passer. Just because he can run a little bit and hand the ball off a lot doesnt make him a top 10 QB.

06-15-2005, 07:16 PM
Kerberos Chiefs Baby Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Henderson, NV Casino cash: $10000632	Pete Pricksco's top 10 QB. Trent Green #8 ... WTF??? http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/positi...ankings/OFF/QB Green at #8 ????? Thats Bullshit ... I would put him before Brett Farve and Steve McNair. Farve is close to being done and McNair is a walking injury report for the last couple of years .... ' I don't get this at all .... Pricksco is a dick ... pun intended! 1. Peyton Manning, Colts How much more can he do from a statistical standpoint? Now it's time to win the ring. 2. Tom Brady, Patriots He doesn't put up big numbers, but he gets it done when it counts. The guy is a legitimate star. 3. Daunte Culpepper, Vikings If not for Manning's amazing season, we'd all be talking about what Culpepper did. Now comes the hard part: Doing it without Randy Moss. 4. Donovan McNabb, Eagles When he finally got a legitimate weapon in Terrell Owens we saw how good McNabb can be. He elevated his game last season. 5. Michael Vick, Falcons He's a magical player at times, but he has to improve his passing. When that happens, look out. 6. Brett Favre, Packers He can still make some amazing plays with his arm, but he's not the same player he was a few years back. But we're glad he's back for another season. 7. Steve McNair, Titans Injuries crippled him last season, but he decided to keep playing instead of retiring. He's lost some weight and he's healthy again. But his team is crumbling around him. 8. Trent Green, Chiefs He had another huge year in 2004 from a numbers standpoint. He knows how to move the chains. 9. Matt Hasselbeck, Seahawks He started slow in 2004, but he came on in the end. With a new, fat contract, he's the man in Seattle. With no more worries, he should play more relaxed. 10. Chad Pennington, Jets The one concern with Pennington is his rotator cuff injury. Will he get his velocity back? If not, the Jets are in trouble. WTF????? Pricksco = .
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06-15-2005, 08:17 PM	#34
Dawson4004 Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC Casino cash: $6231904	I agree about McNair and Vick, but Pennington has a career QB rating of 93.7. Thats pretty good. Completion % of 65%, not to bad. But not good enough to put him in the top 10?
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06-15-2005, 08:22 PM	#36
Dawson4004 Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC Casino cash: $6231904	True, but so far I think he has proven to be a top ten QB. If he continues to be that is yet to be determined.
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06-15-2005, 08:23 PM	#37
AirForceChief Thread Killer Extraordinaire Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Monument, Co Casino cash: $10004930	IMO, there's just not that much difference in the "top Ten" QBs...They're all outstanding. I would have Trent at #6 v. #8, moving Favre and McNair down respectively. But in the end, no biggie.. __________________ John Stuart Mill: "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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06-15-2005, 08:24 PM	#38
Frazod WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $2575085	Ranks Vick as a Top 10 QB and criticizes his passing in the same sentence. That should tell you all you need to know about Pricksco.
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06-15-2005, 08:44 PM	#40
suds79 MVP Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10005036	Putting Michael Vick in the top ten of QBs and then questioning his passing skills is like saying Joe Blow RB is one of the league's 10 best but his vision when running is poor. When he learns how to pass watch out. Give me a break. Michael Vick can't pass for cr@p and at very best could become an average passer if that.
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06-15-2005, 11:42 PM	#41
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06-16-2005, 01:49 AM	#43
Tribal Warfare The Boom Boom Room Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $362813	personally I'm not a real big Culpepper fan all he does is throw jump balls Even if Moss is gone he still has atheletic WRs with great heigh and jumping ability __________________
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06-16-2005, 03:50 AM	#45
Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $4152912	I cant figure out how the quarterback of the highest scoring offense in the league for the past three years isnt any higher than 10 on this list. Without Trent Green, this offense is in BIG trouble. If Johnnie Morton had not bitched up at the end of the year for the final 3 games, he very well could have reached the 1,000 yard mark receiving. That would have made THREE 1,000 yard receivers for the Chiefs offense. That to me is the mark of a GREAT quarterback, not having to simply rely on one bigtime playmaker to complete the passes. Yeah, we have Priest and L.J., but without Trent Green this offense would not be close to producing the results that they have. Had KC had a defense these past three seasons and not cost the Chiefs so many games, Im pretty sure Green would be ranked a lot higher on that list. Vick is nothing. The falcons play in a weak ass conference, and they were all about the rushing attack. They led the league in total yards on the ground. Between Dunn, Duckett, and Vick, the coaching staff managed to overcome Vick's shortcomings as a passer. Just because he can run a little bit and hand the ball off a lot doesnt make him a top 10 QB. __________________ She did not open her eyes this morning. I don't know what else to say.
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