If Grbac has a bad year, will the Chiefs go after Trent Green? - Page 3

TEX · 09-07-2000, 12:47 AM

Lets say that Grbac really has a bad year. In Raye's offense, that wouldn't surprise me especially if we fall behind early and often this season. Would the Chiefs pursue Trent Green? Or if Grbac was released, would the cap hit be too much. Could he be traded for Green and back up Warner. Again are the dollars involved too high here too? Wpuld Al Saundars come back to be the Chiefs OC? Any thoughts?

Clint in Wichita · 09-07-2000, 09:08 AM

Ok, screw Donahoe if that's true.

What about the Bears OC as a coach? Does anyone know anything about him, other than the fact that he's an offensive innovator?

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TEX · 09-07-2000, 09:08 AM

Sorry,
That's "plain DUMB". Can't type this stupid splint on my finger!

KCTitus · 09-07-2000, 09:09 AM

Tis maddening, TX. I share in the frustration and believe that we could be much better if we just had a decent RB. One as average as EG would suffice.

We havent had a real RB since Greg Hill and even he didnt get any real carries.

TEX · 09-07-2000, 09:11 AM

Guys,
If you want offense, the guy for the job is Jeff Diamond! Also, the Vikes had some pretty good defenses in his tenure there. He UNDERSTANDS the game and though he is offensive minded - he also believes in a balanced team.

**ChiTown** · 09-07-2000, 09:12 AM

Clint - Gary Crowton is the OC at Chicago

He was at La Tech before Chicago. IMO, I would love to have him as the players respect the hell out of this guy and he thinks offensive first. Something the Chiefs have not ever had.

Clint in Wichita · 09-07-2000, 09:13 AM

The Chiefs have never had a "great" RB. You would think the law of averages would be in out favor after so many decades of good/average/poor RBs.

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nmt1 · 09-07-2000, 09:15 AM

Gregg: You don't think the backs we have on our team are even as average as Grbac?

TEX · 09-07-2000, 09:16 AM

Titus,
Again - I just don't understand the Chiefs thought process here. Since they chose to "develop" Grbac the #1 thing that would help him would be that LEGIT RB! Unbelievable that they haven't gone after one. I laugh at all those who constantly remind me that "The Chiefs coaches know more than I do". Well that might be true with specific x's and o's but there's a thing called common sense...... It's obvious that most everyone has more!

KCTitus · 09-07-2000, 09:17 AM

The backs we have on our team are not [i]running[/i] backs so, no, they are not even 'average RBs'.

This insistence on playing anyone on the roster rather than getting a damn RB is mind boggling.

Maybe we could line TG up in the HB spot on 3rd and short. After all, he's a pro bowler, right? - that seems to be the line of thinking out there. Crazy.

like pounding a square peg in a round hole.

KCTitus · 09-07-2000, 09:20 AM

TX: totally agree. Im not one saying the Coaches know more than me. If I can call the plays the offense runs and know they wont work, I think I know as much or maybe more than the coach.

I could be a DC against the Chiefs offense easy. 8 man front with the ILB coming hard off the guards into EG. Either way, if he passes, he's met in the backfield by my LB or he panics and throws it away or if they run it's up the middle so my LB will blow him up cause the guy was running with his head down so he didnt see it coming anyway.

nmt1 · 09-07-2000, 09:21 AM

We have several fullbacks on our roster but what do you consider Cloud and Moreau?

the head · 09-07-2000, 09:21 AM

Never the less Grbac will be gone are he will take one hell of a pay cut . Ten mill come on he will be gone .Mrjimmy is on his way out thats for sure quess there's always next year .<BR>

Clint in Wichita · 09-07-2000, 09:22 AM

I have never understood Carl's fascination with Grbac. Sure he showed a few (very few) flashes of potential with S.F., but to give the guy a $20 million contract and annoint him as the starter before his first practice? That seems VERY un-Carl-like.

I think Carl just wanted to make sweet love to Elvis "GQ" Grbac on a bearskin rug in front of a fireplace for God's sake!! [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

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nmt1 · 09-07-2000, 09:23 AM

I'm all for getting a good, every down, feature back. The problem is we don't give the HB's a chance. Cloud carried once or twice and Moreau only carried once. Martyball really does lick bag.

09-07-2000, 09:26 AM

Cloud is too slow for a 205lb. scatback, he can't even freaking return kicks.

Moreau on the other hand is good. He's shown flashes, but he comes out, busts off a 12 yard run and then gets set back on the bench.

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09-07-2000, 09:08 AM	#31
Clint in Wichita Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Ok, screw Donahoe if that's true. What about the Bears OC as a coach? Does anyone know anything about him, other than the fact that he's an offensive innovator? ------------------ This is my signature!! There are many like it but this one is mine!!
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09-07-2000, 09:08 AM	#32
TEX Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Casino cash: $1843127	Sorry, That's "plain DUMB". Can't type this stupid splint on my finger!
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09-07-2000, 09:09 AM	#33
KCTitus Archivist Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Ethernet Casino cash: $9892732	Tis maddening, TX. I share in the frustration and believe that we could be much better if we just had a decent RB. One as average as EG would suffice. We havent had a real RB since Greg Hill and even he didnt get any real carries.
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09-07-2000, 09:11 AM	#34
TEX Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Casino cash: $1843127	Guys, If you want offense, the guy for the job is Jeff Diamond! Also, the Vikes had some pretty good defenses in his tenure there. He UNDERSTANDS the game and though he is offensive minded - he also believes in a balanced team.
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09-07-2000, 09:12 AM	#35
ChiTown Stroking to the SB Champs! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Flatlands of Kansas Casino cash: $2763962	Clint - Gary Crowton is the OC at Chicago He was at La Tech before Chicago. IMO, I would love to have him as the players respect the hell out of this guy and he thinks offensive first. Something the Chiefs have not ever had.
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09-07-2000, 12:47 AM
TEX Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Casino cash: $1843127	Lets say that Grbac really has a bad year. In Raye's offense, that wouldn't surprise me especially if we fall behind early and often this season. Would the Chiefs pursue Trent Green? Or if Grbac was released, would the cap hit be too much. Could he be traded for Green and back up Warner. Again are the dollars involved too high here too? Wpuld Al Saundars come back to be the Chiefs OC? Any thoughts?
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09-07-2000, 09:13 AM	#36
Clint in Wichita Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	The Chiefs have never had a "great" RB. You would think the law of averages would be in out favor after so many decades of good/average/poor RBs. ------------------ This is my signature!! There are many like it but this one is mine!!
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09-07-2000, 09:15 AM	#37
nmt1 Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Gregg: You don't think the backs we have on our team are even as average as Grbac?
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09-07-2000, 09:16 AM	#38
TEX Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Casino cash: $1843127	Titus, Again - I just don't understand the Chiefs thought process here. Since they chose to "develop" Grbac the #1 thing that would help him would be that LEGIT RB! Unbelievable that they haven't gone after one. I laugh at all those who constantly remind me that "The Chiefs coaches know more than I do". Well that might be true with specific x's and o's but there's a thing called common sense...... It's obvious that most everyone has more!
Posts: 34,800

09-07-2000, 09:17 AM	#39
KCTitus Archivist Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Ethernet Casino cash: $9892732	The backs we have on our team are not [i]running[/i] backs so, no, they are not even 'average RBs'. This insistence on playing anyone on the roster rather than getting a damn RB is mind boggling. Maybe we could line TG up in the HB spot on 3rd and short. After all, he's a pro bowler, right? - that seems to be the line of thinking out there. Crazy. like pounding a square peg in a round hole.
Posts: 26,193

09-07-2000, 09:20 AM	#40
KCTitus Archivist Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Ethernet Casino cash: $9892732	TX: totally agree. Im not one saying the Coaches know more than me. If I can call the plays the offense runs and know they wont work, I think I know as much or maybe more than the coach. I could be a DC against the Chiefs offense easy. 8 man front with the ILB coming hard off the guards into EG. Either way, if he passes, he's met in the backfield by my LB or he panics and throws it away or if they run it's up the middle so my LB will blow him up cause the guy was running with his head down so he didnt see it coming anyway.
Posts: 26,193

09-07-2000, 09:21 AM	#41
nmt1 Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	We have several fullbacks on our roster but what do you consider Cloud and Moreau?
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09-07-2000, 09:21 AM	#42
the head Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Ashdown Ar Casino cash: $10004900	Never the less Grbac will be gone are he will take one hell of a pay cut . Ten mill come on he will be gone .Mrjimmy is on his way out thats for sure quess there's always next year .<BR>
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09-07-2000, 09:22 AM	#43
Clint in Wichita Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	I have never understood Carl's fascination with Grbac. Sure he showed a few (very few) flashes of potential with S.F., but to give the guy a $20 million contract and annoint him as the starter before his first practice? That seems VERY un-Carl-like. I think Carl just wanted to make sweet love to Elvis "GQ" Grbac on a bearskin rug in front of a fireplace for God's sake!! [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] ------------------ This is my signature!! There are many like it but this one is mine!!
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09-07-2000, 09:23 AM	#44
nmt1 Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	I'm all for getting a good, every down, feature back. The problem is we don't give the HB's a chance. Cloud carried once or twice and Moreau only carried once. Martyball really does lick bag.
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09-07-2000, 09:26 AM	#45
htismaqe Guest Casino cash: $	Cloud is too slow for a 205lb. scatback, he can't even freaking return kicks. Moreau on the other hand is good. He's shown flashes, but he comes out, busts off a 12 yard run and then gets set back on the bench. ------------------ Parker [b]ChiefsPlanet Administrator[/b] [i]Jimmy Raye for President...anything to get him out of Kansas City[/i] [i]More Moreau</I>
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