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NFL Draft Countdown has added the second round to their mock. They have us taking a dude I know absolutely nothing about. |
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02-09-2006, 10:35 AM | #31 | |
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"I think some are putting too much emphasis on his stats, instead of what the guy can actually do for a defensive line. He can clog up the middle and STUFF the run. He also commands a double-team, thus freeing up other lineman to get after the QB and HB." I believe what I said is true about Gabe Watson.
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02-09-2006, 11:06 AM | #32 | |
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I'm done debating Gabe Watson. If I were a GM I wouldn't use a first round pick on a player that takes plays off.
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"I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07) |
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02-09-2006, 11:37 AM | #33 | |
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But the one sure way to be a BIG BUST at DT in the NFL is to NOT TRY. My beef with Watson is 100% that he's been notorious for taking plays (hell, sometimes whole drives) off... |
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02-09-2006, 12:41 PM | #34 | |
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Tuesday, August 14 Updated: August 15, 11:19 AM ET Prospect profile: Gabe Watson -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By Tom Lemming Special to ESPN.com Gabe Watson It's awfully tough to put together a top 10 list, mainly because one tends to lean towards quarterbacks, running backs and wide receivers. Linemen are usually the forgotten players when it comes to selecting All-American teams, but every now and then there's a player who really stands out and garners accolades simply because he is that good. I believe Gabe Watson (6-4, 334, 4.9) of Southfield, Mich., is certainly that type of player. He's a two-way tackle who's devastating against the run and shows the agility, quickness and strength to become a very effective pass rusher at defensive tackle in college. However, I believe Watson could become a superstar at offensive guard. When you combine his great size with his super quickness, tremendous strength and unusually good football sense, you've got yourself an All-American waiting to happen. As a junior Watson totaled 78 tackles, eight QB sacks, one INT and 16 tackles for losses at defensive tackle. He's an exceptional run stopper with good flexibility, outstanding body control and a nose for the ball. He does a good job of taking on two and sometimes three blockers, penetrating and applying pressure on the quarterback. On offense, he's a dominating run blocker who can bend his knees and stay with his defender until the whistle, an extremely aggressive player who loves to pancake defenders. This year I have not seen a better all-around offensive line prospect. He plays tackle in high school but his size, quickness and ability to pull and trap should make him a dominating guard in college. He bench-presses 405 pounds and in track he has thrown the shot put over 51 feet. He's the consensus No. 1 player in the state of Michigan and in my mind the top offensive line prospect in the country. A testament to Watson's ability is the fact that he's been offered a scholarship by every school that has come to his high school to watch his film. When I recently met with Watson, he told me that Michigan is his leader, followed closely by Ohio State, Miami (Fla.), Nebraska, Michigan State, FSU, Tennessee and Minnesota. The Wolverines could be tough to beat; however, just about every powerhouse in the country will be giving it their best to land this two-way prep standout.
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02-09-2006, 12:50 PM | #35 |
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What makes me think Watson is lazy is watching him play. I watch Michigan play about 6 times a year.
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I've watched enough Big 10 football to recognize that Watson disappears at times. Sometimes for entire games.
Maybe he'll change in the NFL, but he was very inconsistent in the effort put forth in college. |
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So you guys think he's lazy. I don't think he is lazy. Problem solved.
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The guys who say he's lazy actually watched him this past year on Saturdays. The guy who says he isn't is relying on a high school scouting profile. Enough said.
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"I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07) |
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If laziness is what you fear, then the contract could will be back loaded, and incentives based.
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Looks like some may disagree with you about Gabe Watson...
http://www.collegefootballnews.com/B...igTen_team.htm 2005 CFN All-Big Ten Team -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Team P.O.Y.s Illinois P S. Weatherford Indiana WR James Hardy Iowa LB C Greenway Michigan DT G. Watson Michigan State QB D Stanton Minnesota RB L. Maroney Team P.O.Y.s Northwestern QB B Basanez Ohio State LB A.J. Hawk Penn State QB M Robinson Purdue DE R Ninkovich Wisconsin DE Erasmus Big Ten Player of the Year Michael Robinson, QB Penn State The stats weren't out-of-this-world, but Michael Robinson's leadership, clutch play, and running ability helped take Penn State from good to elite. He finished ninth in the Big Ten in rushing with 11 touchdowns, and threw 16 touchdown passes. Defensive Player of the Year A.J. Hawk, LB Ohio State Iowa's Chad Greenway, and Penn State's Paul Posluszny and Tamba Hali all would be defensive players of the year in just about any other league, but Hawk lived up to all the hype with his steady, sometimes spectacular play finishing the year with 109 tackles, 7.5 sacks, 13 tackles for loss, an interception and two forced fumbles. Scroll down for the All-Big Ten Team and Top 30 players regardless of position 2004 CFN All-Big Ten Team | 2003 CFN All-Big Ten Team | 2002 CFN All-Big Ten Team | 2001 CFN All-Big Ten Team -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coach of the year - Joe Paterno, Penn State Best Big Ten game - Sep 24 - Minn. 42 ... Purdue 35 2OT Worst Big Ten game - Oct. 22 - Penn State 63 ... Illinois 10 Freshman of the year - Northwestern RB Tyrell Sutton Best Performance - Oct. 8. Northwestern RB Tyrell Sutton ran 29 times for 244 yards and three touchdowns and caught two passes for nine yards and a score in the 51-48 win over Wisconsin. Wildcat LB Tim McGarigle made 25 tackles. Biggest Surprise: Penn State. Everyone thought Penn State would be a bowl team thanks to its defense, but no one had a clue the offense would be as efficient as it was leading the way to the Big Ten title and within a fingernail of the national championship. Biggest Disappointment: Purdue. With everyone returning on defense, no Ohio State or Michigan on the schedule, and an explosive offense, this was Purdue's year to take the Big Ten by storm. Not only didn't it happen, but the Boilermakers didn't go to a bowl game in one of the most puzzling collapses this season. 2005 Collegefootballnews.com All-Big Ten Team Offense QB - Michael Robinson, Sr. Penn State RB - Brian Calhoun, Jr. Wisconsin RB - Laurence Maroney, Jr. Minnesota WR - Jason Avant, Sr. Michigan WR - Santonio Holmes, Jr. Ohio State TE - Matt Spaeth, Jr. Minnesota OL - Greg Eslinger, Sr. Minnesota OL - Mark Setterstrom, Sr. Minnesota OL - Adam Stenavich, Sr. Michigan OL - Zach Strief, Sr. Northwestern OL - Joe Thomas, Jr. Wisconsin PK - Josh Houston, Sr. Ohio State KR - Ted Ginn Jr., Soph. Ohio State Defense DL - Tamba Hali, Sr. Penn State DL - Mike Kudla, Sr. Ohio State DL - Rob Ninkovich, Sr. Purdue DL - Gabe Watson, Sr. Michigan LB - Chad Greenway, Sr. Iowa LB - A.J. Hawk, Sr. Sr. Ohio State LB - Paul Posluszny, Jr. Penn State DB - Jovon Johnson, Sr. Iowa DB - Calvin Lowery, Sr. Penn State DB - Ashton Youboty, Jr. Ohio State DB - Alan Zemaitis, Sr. Penn State P - Ken DeBauche, Soph. Wisconsin PR - Brandon Williams, Sr. Wisconsin Top 30 players regardless of position Based on the season the player had 1. QB Michael Robinson, Sr. Penn State 2. LB A.J. Hawk, Sr. Ohio State 3. RB Laurence Maroney, Jr. Minnesota 4. LB Chad Greenway, Sr. Iowa 5. LB Paul Posluszny, Jr. Penn State 6. RB Brian Calhoun, Jr. Wisconsin 7. QB Troy Smith, Jr. Ohio State 8. QB Brett Basanez, Sr. Northwestern 9. RB Tyrell Sutton, Fr. Northwestern 10. DE Tamba Hali, Sr. Penn State 11. RB Albert Young, Soph. Iowa 12. LB Tim McGarilgle, Sr. Northwestern 13. LB Abdul Hodge, Sr. Iowa 14. C Greg Eslinger, Sr. Minnesota 15. CB Alan Zemaitis, Sr. Penn State 16. DT Gabe Watson, Sr. Michigan 17. OT Joe Thomas, Jr. Wisconsin 18. QB Drew Stanton, Sr. Michigan State 19. WR Jason Avant, Sr. Michigan 20. CB Ashton Youboty, Jr. Ohio State 21. WR Santonio Holmes, Jr. Ohio State 22. LB Bobby Carpenter, Sr. Ohio State 23. WR Dorien Bryant, Soph. Purdue 24. WR James Hardy, Fr. Indiana 25. SS Calvin Lowry, Sr. Penn State 26. TE Matt Spaeth, Jr. Minnesota 27. CB Jovon Johnson, Sr. Iowa 28. S Nate Salley, Sr. Ohio State 29. QB Drew Tate, Jr. Iowa 30. QB Chad Henne, Jr. Michigan Top Quarterbacks 1. M. Robinson, PSU 2. Troy Smith, Ohio St 3. Brett Basanez, NW 4. Drew Stanton, MSU 5. Drew Tate, Iowa Top Running Backs 1. L. Maroney, Minnesota 2. Brian Calhoun, Wisc. 3. Tyrell Sutton, NW 4. Albert Young, Iowa 5. Antonio Pittman, OSU Top Receivers 1. Jason Avant, Michigan 2. Santonio Holmes, OSU 3. Dorien Bryant, Purdue 4. James Hardy, Indiana 5. Brandon Williams, UW Top Offensive Linemen 1. Greg Eslinger, Minn. 2. Joe Thomas, Wisc. 3. M. Setterstrom, Minn. 4. Adam Stenavich, Mich. 5. Zach Strief, Nwestern Top Defensive Linemen 1. Tamba Hali, Penn State 2. Gabe Watson, Mich. 3. Mike Kudla, Ohio St 4. Rob Ninkovich, Purd. 5. Ken Iwebema, Iowa Top Linebackers 1. A.J. Hawk, Ohio St 2. Chad Greenway, Iowa 3. Paul Posluszny, PSU 4. Tim McGarigle, NW 5. Abdul Hodge, Iowa Top Defensive Backs 1. Alan Zemaitis, PSU 2. Ashton Youboty, OSU 3. Calvin Lowry, PSU 4. Jovon Johnson, Iowa 5. Nate Salley, OSU Top Kickers 1. PK Josh Huston, OSU 2. PK K. Schlicher, Iowa 3. P Ken DeBauche, UW 4. P Steve Weaterhford, Ill 5. P Tyson Beattie, IU They have rated as the best NT in the Big-10 and Player Of the Year for his team.
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2) He was PotY on a Michigan team that was one of the worst any Michigan fan can remember. Not exactly a huge honor. |
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It's much easier to get a 2nd-round pick to agree to such a contract. |
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2) He was declared PoY by that service you quoted. They aren't coaches and they aren't his teammates. 3) I never said he wasn't a damn good player. I said before he has the ability to be one of the best DT's in the game. The problem is that he doesn't play like that every down. How many LAZY players have awards heaped on them? I'm sure Chester McGlockton did. |
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