Top 10 Corners in the Draft (ESPN INSIDER)

[Chieftain58]

Just purchased insider magazine and got the ESPN Insider POI, I see the mock drafts have us taking Tye Hill. I know mock drafts are garbage after the top 10 picks or so, I'm thinking we should move down and grab another draft pick or so and try grabbin 2 of these guys.. Carl seems to blow the top pick every year.. so what would it hurt.



Jimmy Williams CB 6'2" 213 VIRGINIA TECH
Tye Hill CB 5'9" 185 CLEMSON
Ashton Youboty CB 5'11" 189 OHIO STATE
Alan Zemaitis CB 6'1" 194 PENN STATE
Johnathan Joseph CB 5'11" 187 SOUTH CAROLINA
Kelly Jennings CB 6'0" 180 MIAMI (FLA.)
Antonio Cromartie CB 6'2" 208 FLORIDA STATE
Dee Webb CB 5'10" 183 FLORIDA
Richard Marshall CB 5'11" 189 FRESNO STATE
Jason Allen CB 6'0" 209 TENNESSEE

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by rad

Why isn't Michael Huff on that list?

Hes a safety

Dave

[58-4ever]

I'd like to see Hali in the 1st, and Cromartie as late as we can get him. From what I've seen, that kid is a real playmaker. The Florida St. safety, whose name is escaping me, is also a first day selection that we should look at.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by 58-4ever

I'd like to see Hali in the 1st, and Cromartie as late as we can get him. From what I've seen, that kid is a real playmaker. The Florida St. safety, whose name is escaping me, is also a first day selection that we should look at.

Pat Watkins......

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Bwana

And we sure as hell don't want you back there at CB either Rausch.

Exactly...

[JakeT]

Originally Posted by T-post Tom

IIRC, Johnson was taken on need due to the uncertainty of Priest Holmes' health. He was not taken under the "best athlete available" philosophy.

Exactly --

All of you best athlete available guys -- how about another TE in the first?

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by JakeT

Exactly --

All of you best athlete available guys -- how about another TE in the first?

I think there has to be a balance between need and BAA. You don't take a 2nd round guy in the first round just because he fills a need, but at the same time, a team like the Chiefs probably wouldn't want to use a first rounder on a TE or RB just because he was the BAA (unless we're talking Reggie Bush or Vernon Davis).

The Chiefs should have a list of positions of need, and a list of guys they feel are 1st round quality to fill one of those positions. Just like all of us with our mocks, they have a general idea of who will be gone, and who will likely still be there. They aren't going to lock in on just the best CB left on the board. They are going to look for the best guy from a list of CB, S, DE, DT, WR, or whatever else they feel is a need.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by T-post Tom

IIRC, Johnson was taken on need due to the uncertainty of Priest Holmes' health. He was not taken under the "best athlete available" philosophy.

He was taken because Priest wanted to renegotiate his contract

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Meet the 2006 first round draft choice of the Kansas City Chiefs.

There's no way we could be that lucky...

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by SideWinder

If you believe that the Chiefs are still potential contenders, then your draft strategy is the one that's challenged.

This team needs a DE, CB, and DT in the draft.

They can be drafted in that order, or in the reverse order.

Drafting an LT in the second round is admitting that this team needs to look to the future, and is unlikely to contend this season.

The future I'm concerned with is "Near Future." We all saw how important a good LT was to this 'O' when Roaf went down. we need to groom another reasonable semblance of Roaf while we still have him. Targetting a diamond in the rough in the 2nd and allow him to learn and get polished behind Willie is the best way to ensure that. I would still reserve this year's 2nd to "future" while dedicating the rest of the draft to "now." Don't forget, there are older solid FA DBs out there that can tie us over for now until the next draft.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by 58-4ever

I'd like to see Hali in the 1st, and Cromartie as late as we can get him. From what I've seen, that kid is a real playmaker. The Florida St. safety, whose name is escaping me, is also a first day selection that we should look at.

Hali has been my "realistic" 1st rounder for a long time. I still stand by that pick. But now his apparent drop in value might be a blessing in disguise for us, in that we may be able to trade down a few slots and still pick him up while gaining a 4th or even an additional 3rd.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Mecca

You reach for needs and you screw up drafts, that was a Vermiel speciality. The one time they didn't draft for need they got the best player in Vermiels time here, Larry Johnson, and what's he do? He blasts that pick and holds a grudge for years.

The thing is, DV wanted defense. We traded out of the 15th spot (or 16th) because our draft board didn't have any defensive players worthy of that spot. And the Steelers traded up with us and drafted defense. And a good one at that.

Makes me think the guy who sets up our draft board needs to be replaced. Chuck Cook? Is that the guy in charge of college scouting?

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Coogs

The thing is, DV wanted defense. We traded out of the 15th spot (or 16th) because our draft board didn't have any defensive players worthy of that spot. And the Steelers traded up with us and drafted defense. And a good one at that.

Makes me think the guy who sets up our draft board needs to be replaced. Chuck Cook? Is that the guy in charge of college scouting?

It's easy to second guess passing on Polamalu using hindsight, but safety wasn't exactly a position of need for the Chiefs at the time. Remember, Woods and Wesley both played very well that year.

Other than Polamalu, there wasn't another D player drafted after that #16 spot that has had a significant impact in the league yet.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by jspchief

I think there has to be a balance between need and BAA. You don't take a 2nd round guy in the first round just because he fills a need, but at the same time, a team like the Chiefs probably wouldn't want to use a first rounder on a TE or RB just because he was the BAA (unless we're talking Reggie Bush or Vernon Davis).

The Chiefs should have a list of positions of need, and a list of guys they feel are 1st round quality to fill one of those positions. Just like all of us with our mocks, they have a general idea of who will be gone, and who will likely still be there. They aren't going to lock in on just the best CB left on the board. They are going to look for the best guy from a list of CB, S, DE, DT, WR, or whatever else they feel is a need.

I wholeheartedly agree. Makes a lot of sense.

I mean, that would be my approach as well. I wouldn't draft a RB because he is the BAA. No. You have LJ, and he will last you another 5,6 years. Hopefully.

Same can be said about Gonzo.

[RedThat]

Would any of you hestitae to take Jimmy Williams if he is there at 20? Curious.
We can always take CB in the 2nd rd 2. Hopefully a guy like Jonathan Joseph or Richard Marshall will be available by mid 2nd rd.

-Im one that is pretty big on Safeties. Especially playmakers back there, and guys that can cover, tackle.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by jspchief

It's easy to second guess passing on Polamalu using hindsight, but safety wasn't exactly a position of need for the Chiefs at the time. Remember, Woods and Wesley both played very well that year.

Other than Polamalu, there wasn't another D player drafted after that #16 spot that has had a significant impact in the league yet.

I agree on the hind sight part. I think the Eagles took a DE from Miami that the Chiefs wanted IIRC. But the point is, the Steelers saw something in Polamalu and traded up quite a few spots to get him. And it turns out they were correct. Our draft people said there wasn't any defensive players worth of that spot.