Premature Day 1 Grading Thread

[Spicy McHaggis]

Alright, it's way to early but let's do it. What's your reaction to our first day?

I'm also of the opinion that there seems to be a decent amount of talent left; Nance, Greg Lee among other recievers are there, Zemaitis, Demetrice Webb still on the corner market, Watson, Lewis, Harris, Jolly, Williams Wright all DT's to be had and I know we already got Hali but Adeyanju, Dumervil and Ray Edwards are still on the board too.

Encouraging, and trading up into the fourth has got to be on the minds of those in the FO tonight.

[Coach]

And if you look at Pollard...he looks like this year's version of Thomas Davis...the 230lb Georgia safety that the Gun and the staff absolutely had their hearts set on last year before the Panthers took Davis at 14.

Just throwing this out.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by Coach

And if you look at Pollard...he looks like this year's version of Thomas Davis...the 230lb Georgia safety that the Gun and the staff absolutely had their hearts set on last year before the Panthers took Davis at 14.

Just throwing this out.

Davis struggled last year.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Whitner, Bullocks, and Allen.

Bullocks, really? Hmm.

Here's a question: Why have Ko Simpson and Darnell Bing fallen like large boulders?

[Ultra Peanut]

B+

Hali in the first and Croyle in the third: YES!
Pollard: Reach, but at least he can bring the wood.

Hali was perhaps 5-10 picks early, but you know what? If that's the guy, and you don't feel comfortable trading down/can't negotiate a deal in the "proper" range for him, you almost HAVE to pick him. At that point, the projections go out the window.

I was certain we'd go with Lawson, but when Tags said Hali I jumped into the air in excitement.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Davis struggled last year.

Of course, but aren't most rookies usually graded 2-3 years after their draft year?

I mean, most of us thought Mitchell was a bust until he blossomed this past year, ironcially, his 3rd year. Same for Larry Johnson.

[Kylo Ren]

Pick #1 = B+ veru good player at a position of great need
Pick #2 = B sounds like a good player at a position of need
Pick #3 = D - we don't need a QBotF, we have Casey Printers, this was a wasted pick, we should have went with CB or WR or DT or FB or OT or G or almost anything. we don't need a QB project

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Gunther_Fan

Pick #1 = B+ veru good player at a position of great need
Pick #2 = B sounds like a good player at a position of need
Pick #3 = D - we don't need a QBotF, we have Casey Printers, this was a wasted pick, we should have went with CB or WR or DT or FB or OT or G or almost anything. we don't need a QB project

I disagree Casey Printers haven't done anything in the NFL, so he's a QB project as well.

Besides, having 2 QB projects on your team is usually a good thing. More security blankets in case one doesn't work out.

[Spicy McHaggis]

Originally Posted by Gunther_Fan

Pick #3 = D - we don't need a QBotF, we have Casey Printers, this was a wasted pick, we should have went with CB or WR or DT or FB or OT or G or almost anything. we don't need a QB project

We don't need a QBotF? Croyle was a great pick that late in the third.

[Ultra Peanut]

Pick #3 = D - we don't need a QBotF, we have Casey Printers

[Simplex3]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

Just when you thought that guy couldn't suprise you with his stupidity, huh?

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

I spat up tea when I read that, myself. "...we have Casey Printers." lol

Croyle isn't a project in my book. He has a better-than-advertised arm, can read defenses, is a smart player, and has poise. Truely has a sense of poise about him.
He's not a project, he'll learn (and bulk up, preferably) behind Trent until Trent hangs 'em up.

I personally think Cutler and Croyle are about equal prospects. Both Denver and KC have acquired their future signal callers. Should be fun to watch down the road.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by Coach

Of course, but aren't most rookies usually graded 2-3 years after their draft year?

I mean, most of us thought Mitchell was a bust until he blossomed this past year, ironcially, his 3rd year. Same for Larry Johnson.

I agree, I just happen to think that in the 2nd we could have looked towards more immediate impact.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

I agree, I just happen to think that in the 2nd we could have looked towards more immediate impact.

I understand that, and I agree somewhat. But at the same time, none of our safties can really hit worth a shit.

[tk13]

Definitely a solid B, maybe higher. But I think this draft is along the lines of how you build a team. I'm glad to have Herm along to get his fingers dirty in the draft.

It's definitely not the most popular way to do things, but I like the approach we took. Fans would rather draft guys that have off the charts measurables but maybe need some work in the actual football part of the game. We took guys who are going to go out and play hard on the field, as opposed to in the combine.

Like Pollard, people think he's slow because he runs a 4.5... So some guy that runs a 4.4 gets out there. That is one tenth of a second. Really, people don't even realize how small of a difference that is. Snap your fingers. That takes longer than one-tenth of a second. This is what we're using to judge between fast and slow. Having good instincts with pads on can make up that tenth of a second, if not more. Sometimes I think this whole thing is very flawed.

[Coach]

I do wonder if Croyle could had been a 2nd round if he managed to stay healthy.