NFL: "Open Season" on QBs? - Page 3

**Mr. Kotter** · 10:38 PM

You know, on the one hand....it would have been hard to "stop his (Geather's) momentum." On the other, every rule for the last ten years has screamed....."don't lay a finger on the QB." And the rule says, once the QB hook-slides, you don't touch the dude.....but.....

If Geathers isn't fined for what he did against Green last week....am I a bad person for praying for Jared Allen or DJ to flat-out send Plummer (and Cutler) into La-La land this weekend?

FWIW, I'm dead serious. If they are NOT gonna call "foul" on the Geathers-Green hit....I admit, I'm thinking...."fugg it; send that Bronco bastard to the hospital too."

I'll repent on Sunday....

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-13-2006, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SLAG02

What makes this more suspisious is that that crew was known for throwing Flags like cutting farts.

-hence sammy parkers PI flags-

boycott the crew- where can we find out what officals go to what game?

I'm no conspiracy theorist, but is it just coincidence that the bogus PI calls and the non-call on TG were all on the same sideline?

**Mr. Kotter** · 09-13-2006, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SLAG02

What makes this more suspisious is that that crew was known for throwing Flags like cutting farts.

-hence sammy parkers PI flags-

boycott the crew- where can we find out what officals go to what game?

I edited the original post....to say:

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...Mark Collins and James Hasty; Rodney Harrison, Adam Archeleta, John Lynch, and Sean Taylor....to name a few.

And those are right off the top of my head....

Raiderhater · 09-13-2006, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm no conspiracy theorist, but is it just coincidence that the bogus PI calls and the non-call on TG were all on the same sideline?

Let's be careful, lest we start sounding like raider fans....

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-13-2006, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by raiderhader

Let's be careful, lest we start sounding like raider fans....

No accusations, just asking a question.....

**Bugeater** · 09-13-2006, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

That may be what they "said," but they are FOS.

I could EASILY think of several clips of similar plays....where the defender didn't have "time" to avoid the hit......AND didn't lead with his head. And there was a flag AND a subsequent fine.....

Mark Collins and James Hasty; Rodney Harrison, Adam Archeleta, John Lynch, and Sean Taylor....to name a few.

That's what really burns me about this, I know I've seen situations where the QB slid late and the defender was still flagged for hitting him.

Raiderhater · 09-13-2006, 11:12 PM

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No accusations, just asking a question.....

Heh, I know. It was but a friendly warning of the slippery slope many have started down since Sunday. Thought it was time I finally spoke up about what I've been witnessing.

Logical · 09-13-2006, 11:16 PM

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I dunno, it certainly is confusing, isn't it?

Not to me, the Raiders have always been cheap shot artist and I have never wished for a Raider to be hurt. Same applies in this instance, if the rules are inconsistent I understand and don't like it. However I also hate the fact that Kennison was clearly blocking in the back on the same play. The Chiefs cheating and injuring on purpose the opposing team is still wrong. Always will be.

greg63 · 09-13-2006, 11:16 PM

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I hate Denver With every inch of my heart and soul.

I hope Tamba and DJ both Leagally hit Plummer and make him throw another famous Left handed Interception

Great avatar dude!

SLAG · 09-13-2006, 11:17 PM

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Great avatar dude!

i have been saving it for a very long time

**Mr. Kotter** · 09-13-2006, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Logical

Not to me, the Raiders have always been cheap shot artist and I have never wished for a Raider to be hurt. Same applies in this instance, if the rules are inconsistent I understand and don't like it. However I also hate the fact that Kennison was clearly blocking in the back on the same play. The Chiefs cheating and injuring on purpose the opposing team is still wrong. Always will be.

I'll forgive a block in the back EVERY time....if the intent was to try to spare you QB an viscous hit.

Fish · 09-13-2006, 11:19 PM

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Just remember Plummer will... be plummer.. he will give the game to us we just have to be ready to take it once the door is open-

True.... I really think if we can put some pressure on him he'll crack... The dude's a headcase, and Cutler breathing down his neck is bringing out the best in him...

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BTW
If we dont start getting Points off turn overs soon then whats the purpouse of the new dudes on D?

But the D is still evolving. The guys have gotten some time playing together, and that builds confidence. Some guys are still in competition to keep a starting spot, and I don't think this is the D we'll see a month from now. I have no doubt they'll keep getting better as the season progresses. Stat wise they did a damn good job against a good offense with Cincy. This will be another great test for them.

I like the Donk week avatar too.....

SLAG · 09-13-2006, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

But the D is still evolving. The guys have gotten some time playing together, and that builds confidence. Some guys are still in competition to keep a starting spot, and I don't think this is the D we'll see a month from now. I have no doubt they'll keep getting better as the season progresses. Stat wise they did a damn good job against a good offense with Cincy. This will be another great test for them.

My statement was more geared toward the offence after the D gave them the ball back - Thats where i want to see the points added

I dont expecet a Pick Six everytime but a fubmle near the goal line is always nice-

I have VERY high Expectations of Ty Law and he made some nice saves in the first game - but a better saftey has to get back there to back him up - Westly is just not cutting it

greg63 · 09-13-2006, 11:33 PM

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i have been saving it for a very long time

...And very appropriate for the occasion sir!

beer bacon · 09-13-2006, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Seahawk

In a nutshell he basically said Gaethers did not have time to avoid the hit due to the timing of the slide by Green. he also noted that Gaethers did not lead with his head.

He compared the film to another similar hit that was flagged, but it was flagged because the defender put his head down and speared the sliding QB in the head.

Eh, I think the timing excuse is bullshit. We see flags thrown every week for much lesser hits on QBs. The way the NFL works is that once a call is made they just go with whatever justifies the call so they don't have to backtrack.

Fish · 09-13-2006, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SLAG02

- but a better saftey has to get back there to back him up - Westly is just not cutting it

I thought it was a very good sign when they pulled Knight and put Page in against Cincy. I think we'd be a lot better off with the rookies in. They'll screw up a few times, but they'll learn...

I still wanna know how Bell has been almost completely invisible again this season and nobody in the media has said anything about it. I've totally given up on him....

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