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Old 12-21-2006, 04:28 PM  
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Peterson on hotseat?
According to Sports Illustrated.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...k15/index.html
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:12 PM   #31
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OK.....

For sake of conversation....let's say you are Clark and are considering replacing Carl.

Who do you REALISTICALLY expect him to bring in?

Hell, anyone who is interested in winning instead of a penny pinching businessman
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:14 PM   #32
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Peterson step down at the end of this season (but only as President and GM, staying as CEO) and letting Thum and Kuharich take over the President and GM roles.

This would not do anything to make me more optimistic about the future of this franchise.
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:15 PM   #33
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Bill Kuharich would be elevated to GM, then trade all of our draft picks for Adrian Peterson.
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:15 PM   #34
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I just don't see Clark Hunt, having just buried his father, canning the guy who he expressed 18 years worth of confidence in. I don't see it.
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:16 PM   #35
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Hell, anyone who is interested in winning instead of a penny pinching businessman

I'm serious.

It's so easy for people to say "shitcan CP" but no one has a solution on who to replace him with. I'm not a CP apologist by any stretch of the imagination, but I can't come up with a realistic replacement, either.
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:17 PM   #36
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Peterson step down at the end of this season (but only as President and GM, staying as CEO) and letting Thum and Kuharich take over the President and GM roles.

This would not do anything to make me more optimistic about the future of this franchise.

Exactly.

As I said in one of the other threads, either of those two would basically be like having Carl Peterson Jr. at the helm.
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:32 PM   #37
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I'm serious.

It's so easy for people to say "shitcan CP" but no one has a solution on who to replace him with. I'm not a CP apologist by any stretch of the imagination, but I can't come up with a realistic replacement, either.
Come on now. We all know who the dream GM is. Maybe he wants to get out from underneath his father in laws shadow and leave his own mark.
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Once Pioli and Belichick arrived in New England in 2000, it took the pair just two seasons to rebuild the foundation of the team. Since orchestrating the franchise's first Super Bowl victory following the 2001 season, Pioli and Belichick have executed a plan to produce continued success, becoming the only personnel director/head coach tandem in NFL history to win three Super Bowls in a four-year span (2001-04). The Patriots are the only NFL team to win at least one playoff game in each of the last three seasons (2003-05) and are the only team in the league to win nine or more games in each of the last five seasons (2001-05).

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Old 12-21-2006, 07:35 PM   #38
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Please don't encourage them, BRC!
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:40 PM   #39
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What would Clark have to lose by hiring Scott Pioli?

It cant get any worse than it is now? We arent going to win anything meaningful for the next 4 years, so why not just clean house and give the fans some hope?

Hope is good!
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:42 PM   #40
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What would Clark have to lose by hiring Scott Pioli?

It cant get any worse than it is now? We arent going to win anything meaningful for the next 4 years, so why not just clean house and give the fans some hope?

Hope is good!
Have to lose? The dude is GOD among GM's. Convincing him to leave his father in law and the real cushy NE job would be the hard part.
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:42 PM   #41
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Matt Millen? At least he would draft some WR's.
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:45 PM   #42
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What would Clark have to lose by hiring Scott Pioli?

It cant get any worse than it is now? We arent going to win anything meaningful for the next 4 years, so why not just clean house and give the fans some hope?

Hope is good!
What makes you think Pioli is gonna leave NE to take the same job here?

He's got the best job in the world working for his FIL.....multiple SB rings....I'm sure he'd leave all that for a lateral move to KC....
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:47 PM   #43
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Have to lose? The dude is GOD among GM's. Convincing him to leave his father in law and the real cushy NE job would be the hard part.
Sorry BRC...didn't get to your post.
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Matt Millen? At least he would draft some WR's.
I don't think that Matt Millen is qualified to run a hot dog stand at the north pole.
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Old 12-21-2006, 08:36 PM   #45
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Personally, I like the idea that the press is coming down on Carl.

Even if he doesn't resign or if Clark chooses to retain him, there is additional performance pressure that didn't exist before. In my view, that's a good thing.

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Yep. Exactly. The constant ridicule by the media is what led Royals' owner David Glass to take power away from his son.
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