Johnson County mulling the banning of Pit Bulls in parks - Page 3

**BigRedChief** · 01-22-2007, 02:57 PM

Big Daddy is gonna be pissed!

As Andrea Bielsker’s dog Tanner romped in Shawnee Mission Park, a pit bull clamped its jaws around the neck of the mixed-breed Dalmatian.
“It just locked on and wouldn’t let go,” said her friend Nora Hicks, who witnessed the April attack in the off-leash dog area of the popular Johnson County park.
So Hicks popped the pit bull on the head, stunning the muscular animal just enough for Tanner to wiggle free.
“The attack was completely unprovoked,” Hicks told the Johnson County Board of Park and Recreation Commissioners in November. “I am sincerely afraid someday a dog is going to get killed.”
That attack — and others like it in the last six years — has prompted park board members to consider banning pit bulls from the county’s 10 parks. A public hearing is set for 6 p.m. Wednesday, and board members could vote to ban the animals after the hearing.

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01-22-2007, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

And it cracks me up that they mention Dalmatians in that story. Dalmatians can be just as vicious as pit bulls, if not moreso. People see them and think of a Disney movie, but they don't know that the reason they are firehouse dogs is because they used to run out in front of the fire wagon and they would literally rip to pieces anything and everything that got in the way of the firemen and the horses that would slow them down or prevent them from getting to a fire quickly. But let's not let facts get in the way of a good old fashioned witch hunt.

Indeed. I'd like to see a reputable source that will back up your claims of "ripping to pieces anything and everything that got in the way".

Silock · 01-22-2007, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrum_69

Youre right!

It freaked me out the other day when I seen a pack of wild dalmations wrecking havoc all through the city

FIRE HYDRANTS BEWARE!!!

Right... because pit bulls swarm your city in packs hunting down small children and ripping apart Honda Civics.

Simplex3 · 01-22-2007, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Dalmations have mental problems.

Cockers have been inbred to the point that they're all insane.

Silock · 01-22-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

Indeed. I'd like to see a reputable source that will back up your claims of "ripping to pieces anything and everything that got in the way".

It's absolutely true. A simple google search will yield results showing that they guarded the fire carriage from other dogs and animals that got in the way of the carriage, and yes, they did sometimes kill people if they were in the way.

memyselfI · 01-22-2007, 04:05 PM

I'd support it. It makes no sense having a ban on them in neighborhoods and then allowing them in public parks.

01-22-2007, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

It's absolutely true. A simple google search will yield results showing that they guarded the fire carriage from other dogs and animals that got in the way of the carriage, and yes, they did sometimes kill people if they were in the way.

Okay, I've now dedicated about 10 minutes to proving your claim. I'm unable to find a single source of a dalmation ripping or killing anything other than "vermin" around the firehouse.

Brock · 01-22-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

It's absolutely true. A simple google search will yield results showing that they guarded the fire carriage from other dogs and animals that got in the way of the carriage, and yes, they did sometimes kill people if they were in the way.

LOL, you're full of shit.

Redrum_69 · 01-22-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

It's absolutely true. A simple google search will yield results showing that they guarded the fire carriage from other dogs and animals that got in the way of the carriage, and yes, they did sometimes kill people if they were in the way.

What was really scary were the teams of chiuauas they had out front in ambulances back in the 1900's. those little shits would yip and yap all through the street...scaring everything out of their way...especially with the gnashing of their teeth!

wilas101 · 01-22-2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrum_69

What was really scary were the teams of chiuauas they had out front in ambulances back in the 1900's. those little shits would yip and yap all through the street...scaring everything out of their way...especially with the gnashing of their teeth!

I don't know about dalmations and fire wagons but the chihuahua thing is real. My great grandma died by being consumed by a pack of ambulance leading chihuahuas.

Look it up on google. Its there, I swear. :P

01-22-2007, 04:22 PM

I've added another 10 minutes doing simple google searches and haven't found a single reference to a dalmation killing anything other than rodents. Please help me, Silock. Obviously Google is kicking my butt.

wilas101 · 01-22-2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

I've added another 10 minutes doing simple google searches and haven't found a single reference to a dalmation killing anything other than rodents. Please help me, Silock. Obviously Google is kicking my butt.

Did you google the story about my grandma? It only takes another 10 minutes and you'll have a cool half hour wasted trying to verify crap that you KNOW isn't true to begin with.

Silock · 01-22-2007, 04:31 PM

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL...llDogsBite.htm

Apparently, though, you can't readily find that information on the dalmatians as carriage dogs on the internet. There simply isn't much information listed, and the info that IS listed is mostly on "Why you should choose a Dalmatian for your pet!" sites, which of course wouldn't include that info. I assure you, though, that it IS true, which I know, of course, that you won't believe simply because I said so. So, yeah, I was wrong that it's readily available on Google. It's not.

Brock · 01-22-2007, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL...llDogsBite.htm

Apparently, though, you can't readily find that information on the dalmatians as carriage dogs on the internet. There simply isn't much information listed, and the info that IS listed is mostly on "Why you should choose a Dalmatian for your pet!" sites, which of course wouldn't include that info. I assure you, though, that it IS true, which I know, of course, that you won't believe simply because I said so. So, yeah, I was wrong that it's readily available on Google. It's not.

Oh, they were used as carriage dogs. They did not, however, kill people as you contend.

01-22-2007, 04:36 PM

I see one story about a 5 year old who had half his nose ripped off by a dalmation in Houston. No word yet on whether said child was in the way of a Fire Carriage.

Silock · 01-22-2007, 04:38 PM

:sigh:

They have killed people before. I'm not saying that that is their specific purpose or that they were even bred to kill everything. The larger point is that pit bulls are not the only breed of dog to have ever killed people or attacked another dog or human unprovoked, but you don't see people crying about outlawing German Shepherds or other dogs that have done so (at least, not here).

Like I said, you're not going to believe me about the Dalmatians being vicious just because I say so, which you shouldn't, and I wouldn't reasonably expect you to. I'm trying to track down the info, though.

01-22-2007, 02:57 PM
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01-22-2007, 04:05 PM	#35
memyselfI CHANGEd your mind yet???? Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lunatics Anonymous Casino cash: $10005234	I'd support it. It makes no sense having a ban on them in neighborhoods and then allowing them in public parks. __________________ Meet the new boss same as the old boss. BigChiefDave:"Anyone who thought we would only be in Iraq for a few years is either stoned or just stoopid." "It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last 6 days, 6 wks. I doubt 6 mths." Rummy 2/7/03
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01-22-2007, 04:22 PM	#40
Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	I've added another 10 minutes doing simple google searches and haven't found a single reference to a dalmation killing anything other than rodents. Please help me, Silock. Obviously Google is kicking my butt.
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01-22-2007, 04:31 PM	#42
Silock MVP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10020882	http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL...llDogsBite.htm Apparently, though, you can't readily find that information on the dalmatians as carriage dogs on the internet. There simply isn't much information listed, and the info that IS listed is mostly on "Why you should choose a Dalmatian for your pet!" sites, which of course wouldn't include that info. I assure you, though, that it IS true, which I know, of course, that you won't believe simply because I said so. So, yeah, I was wrong that it's readily available on Google. It's not.
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01-22-2007, 04:36 PM	#44
Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	I see one story about a 5 year old who had half his nose ripped off by a dalmation in Houston. No word yet on whether said child was in the way of a Fire Carriage.
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01-22-2007, 04:38 PM	#45
Silock MVP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10020882	:sigh: They have killed people before. I'm not saying that that is their specific purpose or that they were even bred to kill everything. The larger point is that pit bulls are not the only breed of dog to have ever killed people or attacked another dog or human unprovoked, but you don't see people crying about outlawing German Shepherds or other dogs that have done so (at least, not here). Like I said, you're not going to believe me about the Dalmatians being vicious just because I say so, which you shouldn't, and I wouldn't reasonably expect you to. I'm trying to track down the info, though.
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