Juice Fasting for 30 days?

[Pushead2]

Anyone ever try it? Four of my friends have done it and lost about 30lbs each. But for some reason I am not sold on it. Any help?

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Silock

Sorry, but it's not the same. You're talking about a low-protein, high-carb, low-fat diet. That's a crash diet.

If you're adding supplements and other things, then it's not exactly a "juice" diet. I've done a month-long smoothie diet before, but that was with lots of whey and soy protein, a bit of oats, flaxseed oil and a handful of fresh fruit, combined with a good multi-vitamin and omega-3s. I wouldn't call that a real smoothie diet, either.

Soy protein is like the worst food on the planet. Youy actually don't need that much protein unless you're bodybuilding in which case you are not doing juice fasting.

[The Rick]

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

I thought you meant OJ was going on a food strike in jail...

...seriously, I thought that...

Ha! I thought the same thing!

[TN_Chief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

What about switchgrass?? We could use it for protein and gas.

[Guiness voice] Brilliant! [/Guiness voice]

[KCChiefsMan]

there are benefits to fasting. Not losing weight really fast, but there are benefits, you can get rid of all the toxins, it's a good aide to help you quit an addiction and there are others as well.

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Soy protein is like the worst food on the planet. Youy actually don't need that much protein unless you're bodybuilding in which case you are not doing juice fasting.

I used to mix up a glass of whey protein shake and milk for breakfast when I was dieting. It seemed like a good idea, a good amount of protein, low fat, low in sugar. I mixed some psyllium husk in it too to add fiber. It left me full until lunch time.

[alpha_omega]

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

I thought you meant OJ was going on a food strike in jail...

...seriously, I thought that...

As did I.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Soy protein is like the worst food on the planet. Youy actually don't need that much protein unless you're bodybuilding in which case you are not doing juice fasting.

I didn't say that was juice fasting. I didn't specify the amounts of protein in each serving, so how can you know whether or not it's too much?

You're WAY off base on soy protein. It's a great protein. It needs to be ingested in moderation, but as a supplement to a diet (not a base), it's very good. I'm guessing you're coming from the bodybuilding side of things that generally ridicules soy protein as being completely worthless. There are some good articles about the benefits of soy protein on bodybuilding.com and other websites. You should check them out.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Silock

Where did I say that was a juice diet? I didn't.

I also like how you say "that much protein" when I didn't even specify the amounts of protein in each serving.

Lastly, you're WAY off base on soy protein. It's a great protein. It needs to be ingested in moderation, but as a supplement to a diet (not a base), it's very good.

Jesus I love it when people try to lecture me on this shit. Welcome to the ****ing planet. Unfriggenbelievable.

First of all you don't have to know much to know soy is one of the worst foods you can put in your body. Don't take it from me though try asking just about any naturopathic physician out there. The most recent one I talked to is Dr. Bernd Friedlander who just happened to work with the Olympic team, the Raiders and the Rams at different times. Soy also stimulates estrogen production. Don't let that stop you from acting like an authority on the subject though.

As far as your other shit goes:

Where did I say you said that was a juice diet? I simply said you wouldn't be on a juice diet if you were body building.


As far as specifying the amount of protein you were talking about I believed you used the term "lots" in conjunction with whey.

Go ahead and pretend to have an idea on the subject though. This has got to be one of the worst places I have ever seen to get advice on nutrition/ weight lifting / health issues in general.

Whey protein is loaded with high levels of amino's. This is a good thing except when you put "lots" in front of it you overload your kidneys and liver which is a bad thing. You know you have too much when your pee gets all foamy. I'm sure you knew already though.

[Iowanian]

You'll shit yosef to def.

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

I used to mix up a glass of whey protein shake and milk for breakfast when I was dieting. It seemed like a good idea, a good amount of protein, low fat, low in sugar. I mixed some psyllium husk in it too to add fiber. It left me full until lunch time.

You've dieted?

[DenverChief]

Why not just go on a high protien low carb diet that is much better

or start counting calories that'll do the trick too

[Skip Towne]

Originally Posted by Phobia

You've dieted?

Brutal

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Jesus I love it when people try to lecture me on this shit. Welcome to the ****ing planet. Unfriggenbelievable.

First of all you don't have to know much to know soy is one of the worst foods you can put in your body. Don't take it from me though try asking just about any naturopathic physician out there. The most recent one I talked to is Dr. Bernd Friedlander who just happened to work with the Olympic team, the Raiders and the Rams at different times. Soy also stimulates estrogen production. Don't let that stop you from acting like an authority on the subject though.

As far as your other shit goes:

Where did I say you said that was a juice diet? I simply said you wouldn't be on a juice diet if you were body building.


As far as specifying the amount of protein you were talking about I believed you used the term "lots" in conjunction with whey.

Go ahead and pretend to have an idea on the subject though. This has got to be one of the worst places I have ever seen to get advice on nutrition/ weight lifting / health issues in general.

Whey protein is loaded with high levels of amino's. This is a good thing except when you put "lots" in front of it you overload your kidneys and liver which is a bad thing. You know you have too much when your pee gets all foamy. I'm sure you knew already though.

Troy I know we don't exactly get a long on here but one thing I will say is you know your shit about nutrition

Question: do you know of any pitfalls to the use of rice milk/cheese? I can't use regular milk cause I'm slightly lactose intolorant....just makes me rally gassy and I used soy untill I hear about the estrogen thing so ....

[Silock]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Soy also stimulates estrogen production. Don't let that stop you from acting like an authority on the subject though.

Okay, I won't, because I do, in fact, know what I'm talking about. Head on over to Pubmed. There are several studies done in relation to estrogen and soy protein. The phytoestrogens in soy protein produce the postive effects of soy intake, such as reduced LDL cholesterol level, enhanced thyroid efficiency, and reduced risk of heart disease without the negative effects of actual estrogen production. So, you can have the positives without the negatives such as weight gain.

I'm well-aware that there are negative side effects to soy protein. Some of them are taken care of in the isolate formation process. I don't recommend taking in a lot of soy protein for the exact reasons that you say it's bad. But it does have several health benefits. It's got lots of nice Omega-3s. But, like I said -- moderation is key. But to say that it's the worst thing in the world is absolutely crap, and I'm sure you were just exaggerating to make a point. Not sure why you have the crappy attitude about it, but whatever. I'm not taking it personally.

As far as specifying the amount of protein you were talking about I believed you used the term "lots" in conjunction with whey.

Oh noez!

Whey protein is loaded with high levels of amino's. This is a good thing except when you put "lots" in front of it you overload your kidneys and liver which is a bad thing. You know you have too much when your pee gets all foamy. I'm sure you knew already though.

Like I said -- you have no idea on the amount, so you can't make an accurate assessment. But just FYI, "lots" corresponds, in my case, to slightly less than 1 gram per pound of my bodyweight. Is that "lots" for a bodybuilder? No. Is it lots for a person that doesn't really do much exercise? Yes.

[Simplex3]

I think it's a great idea for you, Pushead2.

Anything that keeps you from reproducing.