Who do you take? - Page 3

ILChief · 12-15-2007, 04:44 PM

Chiefs are on the clock and both Jake Long and Glen Dorsey are both sitting there.

who do you take? (these are the only two choices, no Gaz option)

RustShack · 12-15-2007, 05:12 PM

If there was an elite LT in this draft, I would be all for drafting him first round. The only problem is that there isn't one. Elite players for certain postions are around every once in awhile. If there were a couple elite players for every position every year that would be bad ass.

**the Talking Can** · 12-15-2007, 05:13 PM

um, Dorsey...

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-15-2007, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You people wanting Oline.....how many of you wanted Joe Staley when the rest of us said it was best to go WR......

How'd that work out? Would you rather have Staley or Bowe...

I wanted Bowe. I also didn't realize this line would be so bad.

RustShack · 12-15-2007, 05:14 PM

Some of you act like you have never paid attention to anything in football, exept what happens in KC.

smittysbar · 12-15-2007, 05:14 PM

I am truly floored that some are even arguing Long over Dorsey

This is truly a no brainer

CupidStunt · 12-15-2007, 05:15 PM

Here's what the Chiefs need -- more players on the roster that'd get consideration for some type of fantasy (made-up, not stats) all-division team. Right now, they have only three - Bowe, Allen and DJ.

Dorsey is one. You don't take Long and hope he's the fix for the terrible OL and will someday garner such consideration. You draft Dorsey, who is a Shawne Merriman-type talent, and thank the lord that KC is getting better players across the board.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-15-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lj4mvp

And who's going to help fix the awful run defense?

Will there be enough tissues in KC when Dorsey is starting in the Pro Bowl and Jake Long is watching him after giving up 6 sacks on the season?

I agree. I also wonder who is gonna keep Croyle from getting killed.

**Reaper16** · 12-15-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You people wanting Oline.....how many of you wanted Joe Staley when the rest of us said it was best to go WR......

How'd that work out? Would you rather have Staley or Bowe...

Exactly. Even if I knew the o-line was going to turn out to be this horrible, I still would have wanted Bowe (the near-consensus #2 WR in last year's class) over Staley (a project/upside pick).

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-15-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by smittysbar

I am truly floored that some are even arguing Long over Dorsey

This is truly a no brainer

I am not arguing this. I didn't vote. I just think fixing the O-line is more important.

**Reaper16** · 12-15-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

I am not arguing this. I didn't vote. I just think fixing the O-line is more important.

The thing about that is: the Chiefs are not going to fix the o-line in a single draft. It's going to take years, probably. Taking Long over Dorsey is akin to drafting to get something out of next season.

Drafting Dorsey is drafting for with the future in mind -- and yes, the Chiefs are bad enough that they have to be thinking years ahead.

Mecca · 12-15-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

I am not arguing this. I didn't vote. I just think fixing the O-line is more important.

What if I told you you can get a OT in the 2nd round that is rated pretty close to Long? This Oline class is deep but there is no elite player...there isn't much dropoff from Long and the guys that will be available in the 2nd round.

**the Talking Can** · 12-15-2007, 05:20 PM

I bag on Herm, but he would kick an old lady to get to the podium in order to draft Dorsey.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-15-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

This Oline class is deep but there is no elite player...there isn't much dropoff from Long and the guys that will be available in the 2nd round.

True. Is Ryan Clady coming out early?

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-15-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Bong

I bag on Herm, but he would kick an old lady to get to the podium in order to draft Dorsey.

Mecca · 12-15-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

True. Is Ryan Clady coming out early?

Not sure, I however did hear today that James Laurenitis is likely not coming out...

Clady is probably a mid 1st rounder.....Tons of these lineman all rank out almost the same, there isn't much of a drop off from the 1st to 3rd round.

View Poll Results: If both are available, who do you take?
Jake Long, OT Michigan	30	42.25%
Glen Dorsey, DT LSU	41	57.75%
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