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Old 12-24-2007, 01:44 PM  
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Colt Brennan in the 2nd round anyone?

If the QB position is such a big issue to some folks, why not draft Long, Ellis, or Dorsey in the 1st in they're available and look to snag Colt Brennan in the early 2nd round? Last time I checked he was slated to go Mid-2nd, somewhere around 50.

I've personally watched Brohm, Ryan, and Woodson, and they haven't impressed me any more than Colt Brennan has. He'd come a hell of lot cheaper than the other three would, and he has all of the same physical and mental tools as the others.

I understand the knock for his system QB play, but that doesn't change the fact that he is accurate, or that he is a proven winner and may bring a good mentality with him. If we're going to gamble on a QB with a first day pick, this isn't the year to pick a QB up in the 1st round.

A far from impressive class, but Brennan has been largely overlooked and under-valued, he could provide a young, cheap alternate, and competition.
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:16 PM   #31
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As long as we don't get a QB with the first pick.
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:17 PM   #32
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Brennan is a changed man since then. He is very well respected here in Hawaii. He has been a model citizen, does good work in the community, and is very humble. He made a youthful mistake ,but he learned from it. I'm sick and tired of hearing this BS from people that know nothing about him.

He is in no way a thug nor does he have any behavior problems at all.
i wasnt saying he is a thug or anything... i dont think he is, ive heard he cares alot about his team. he even grew dreadlocks and learned all about the samoan culture just to try to groove better with his receivers and teammates. but we'll have to wait and see how he acts when he gets to the NFL im sure he will be fine, its just a matter on if the Chiefs would want to take that chance.
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:18 PM   #33
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As long as we don't get a QB with the first pick.
We're going to draft a QB with every pick. Increase our chances of finding our QBoTF ten fold!
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:18 PM   #34
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:19 PM   #35
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Doesnt he always operate out of the shotgun as well? I dont think ive ever seen him take a snap under center?
Once in a blue moon and it's usually just to run the option. I can't recall ever seeing him play action pass.

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I dont think any NFL team runs a Run and Shoot offense anymore.
Not since the old Oilers I don't think.

And there's a reason it's not run in the NFL or by your major college programs.
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:20 PM   #36
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Doesnt he always operate out of the shotgun as well? I dont think ive ever seen him take a snap under center?


I dont think any NFL team runs a Run and Shoot offense anymore.
That doesn't keep people around here from thinking Chase Daniel is gonna be awesome in the NFL...

It's not a pro style offense in the fact that he always lines up like that and all that. But the routes thing, that is NFL caliber. NFL teams do option routes all the time, the QB and the WR read the coverage and that determines his route...at least that's how it's usually done unless you are a 1962 offense.
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:20 PM   #37
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He seems to have QB instincts that are required to play the position. Roethlisberger is the last college QB I've seen that has that kind of confidence and poise.
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:21 PM   #38
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The Pats sure like to show you they can do a run n shoot variation.
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:22 PM   #39
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And there's a reason it's not run in the NFL or by your major college programs.
The Oilers, Falcons and Lions ran it pretty successully back in the early 90's.


Im surprised no one has tried to revitalize it again lately?

Although a few teams run variations of it. The Pats go 4 and 5 wideouts frequently, but you have to have a hell of a pass blocking O-line to do that. Brady gets hit alot, but hes one tough SOB.
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:23 PM   #40
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But the routes thing, that is NFL caliber. NFL teams do option routes all the time
Wrong. You might have one receiver run an option route on a particular play now and again. Hawaii does it every play and for each receiver. It is not anything like any NFL offense.
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:23 PM   #41
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i wasnt saying he is a thug or anything... i dont think he is, ive heard he cares alot about his team. he even grew dreadlocks and learned all about the samoan culture just to try to groove better with his receivers and teammates. but we'll have to wait and see how he acts when he gets to the NFL im sure he will be fine, its just a matter on if the Chiefs would want to take that chance.
He has learned the meaning of aloha here in Hawaii. He fits in with the friendly and respectful culture here, something that not all newcomers can do. I'm so confident that there is no chance that he will be a problem that I will give you $100 if he ever has trouble like that in the NFL.
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:26 PM   #42
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The Pats sure like to show you they can do a run n shoot variation.
Not the same offense, for one. The Patriots also didn't start passing all the time until this season. And it's effective because they have a legendary quarterback, a terrific offensive line, and more importantly Randy Moss, who makes everything they do on offense possible. He requires extra attention in terms of the number of defenders he needs and he can stretch and manipulate the field wherever you want on any given play.
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:27 PM   #43
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The Patriots also didn't start passing all the time until this season.
You are kidding, right?
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:29 PM   #44
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He has learned the meaning of aloha here in Hawaii. He fits in with the friendly and respectful culture here, something that not all newcomers can do. I'm so confident that there is no chance that he will be a problem that I will give you $100 if he ever has trouble like that in the NFL.
Very true. He has learned from his mistake. I saw him at a party a few weeks ago, this time he was getting the GIRL drunk. Smart kid.
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:30 PM   #45
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You are kidding, right?
Are you talking about under Weis? That was a dink and dunk offense. They were essentially making up for their lack of a running game.

They're a big play passing attack now.
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