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Old 03-07-2008, 06:55 AM  
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Suspended Titans CB still interested in going to Dallas

ATLANTA (AP) -- Suspended Tennessee Titans cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones says he has changed the way he conducts himself in public and is ready to play football again. When and where he will play is still uncertain. Jones appeared as a guest Thursday on WCNN-AM "The Fan," in Atlanta and said he is still interested in playing for the Dallas Cowboys. The Titans met with Jones' agents in January and the team is expected to try and trade the cornerback once he is reinstated, which may not be until training camps open in July. Jones was asked questions about his frequent visits to strip clubs and run-ins with the law. He also discussed horses, bowling and his friendship with Tennessee neighbor and country music legend George Jones.

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Old 04-01-2008, 05:05 PM   #31
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That's quite a bit different.
Allen currently has his own establishment.

Why should Jones deny himself an opportunity to patronize a strip club 7 years down the line?
I don't think anyone cares what he does when he's retired and headed toward bankruptcy. If the dude had a brain in his head, though, he'd be recognizing that his intransigence is costing him unimaginable amounts of money at this very moment. Sometimes the cost of doing anything you want any time you want is very high.
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:09 PM   #32
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I don't think anyone cares what he does when he's retired and headed toward bankruptcy. If the dude had a brain in his head, though, he'd be recognizing that his intransigence is costing him unimaginable amounts of money at this very moment. Sometimes the cost of doing anything you want any time you want is very high.
Yep.

Pacman Jones may be the only person on the planet who places more value on going to strip clubs than making millions of dollars in the NFL.

He's proven on several occasions now that he can't do both at the same time.
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:18 PM   #33
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Another reason why Pacman going to Dallas is insane... there are strip clubs all over the place.
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:21 PM   #34
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Another reason why Pacman going to Dallas is insane... there are strip clubs all over the place.
Man, no kidding.

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Old 04-01-2008, 05:26 PM   #35
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I don't think anyone cares what he does when he's retired and headed toward bankruptcy. If the dude had a brain in his head, though, he'd be recognizing that his intransigence is costing him unimaginable amounts of money at this very moment. Sometimes the cost of doing anything you want any time you want is very high.
The NFL does not and cannot regulate what he does on his own time.
That's ridiculous.

Rather what they're concerned about is conduct detrimental to league integrity.

I could care less if the man ever sets foot in a strip club again.
Can he stay out of trouble? That should be Goodell's concern.
Not whether or not he'll ever see some half-naked woman paying her way through college by wearing shiny pasties.
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Yep.

Pacman Jones may be the only person on the planet who places more value on going to strip clubs than making millions of dollars in the NFL.

He's proven on several occasions now that he can't do both at the same time.
I think the freedom to choose what he will and won't do is what's important.
Not patronizing stripclubs.
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:28 PM   #37
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The NFL does not and cannot regulate what he does on his own time.
That's ridiculous.

Rather what they're concerned about is conduct detrimental to league integrity.

I could care less if the man ever sets foot in a strip club again.
Can he stay out of trouble? That should be Goodell's concern.
Not whether or not he'll ever see some half-naked woman paying her way through college by wearing shiny pasties.
I agree with you. However, the GMs of the league can - and brutally will - take risk into account when considering whether to sign him. If he wants to go to strip clubs, they can't stop him, but they can make sure that he's doing it for league minimum or as an unsigned free agent. Pacman needs to figure out real quick that you can't make it rain on an insurance salesman's salary, and act accordingly.
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I think the freedom to choose what he will and won't do is what's important.
Not patronizing stripclubs.
I guess you've forgotten that every time he steps foot in a strip club, that he gets himself into some sort of trouble that the league would consider detrimental?

If the man could walk into a strip club without running afoul of the law, like 95% of people, it wouldn't be an issue.

He has no one to blame but himself.
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Teams can have language written into contracts that prohibit players from doing things like... sky diving, skiing, etc... correct? Why couldn't a team put wording in about a strip club? I'm no lawyer and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, so I'm not seeing the difference really.
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:32 PM   #40
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I guess you've forgotten that every time he steps foot in a strip club, that he gets himself into some sort of trouble that the league would consider detrimental?
He certainly hasn't proven he can handle it.
Perhaps he could after a four-year hiatus?
Give the man an opportunity to grow. My goodness...

No one is making excuses for the man.
He's done himself in, but to say that he should abstain for the rest of his playing career is a bit much for me.
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Teams can have language written into contracts that prohibit players from doing things like... sky diving, skiing, etc... correct? Why couldn't a team put wording in about a strip club? I'm no lawyer and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, so I'm not seeing the difference really.
Those prohibitions are put in place to stave off physical injury from non-football related activity.
That's a bit different.
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He certainly hasn't proven he can handle it.
Perhaps he could after a four-year hiatus?
Give the man an opportunity to grow. My goodness...

No one is making excuses for the man.
He's done himself in, but to say that he should abstain for the rest of his playing career is a bit much for me.
Give him an opportunity?

How many "opportunities" does this guy get?

Here's his "rap sheet" since entering the league. It's even bigger if you include his high school and college years.



July 13, 2005- Arrested and charged with assault and felony vandalism after a nightclub altercation. This began Pacman Jones NFL rap sheet. He already had a lengthy one from high school and college.

September 5, 2005- Adam was invited to attend the Nashville Sports Council Kickoff Luncheon. Jones went off on a verbal tirade while being told to wait for his car after the event. He then refused to tip the valet service.

October 2005- State of West Virginia filed a petition stating that Jones had not been contacting his probation officer and that he had not reported his July 2005 arrest. The judge extended the probation for just 90 days.

March 23, 2006- Charged with marijuana possession in Fayetteville, Georgia. He went on to claim that he knew how to beat the NFL’s drug test.

August 25, 2006- Arrested for disorderly conduct and public intoxication after being ordered by the cops to leave a Murfreesboro night club several times. Jones claimed a woman stole his wallet. The woman claimed that Jones spat on her. The judge in the case gave Pacman six months probation and told him to stay away from the club.

October 26, 2006- Jones was issued a citation for misdemeanor assault after a female student from Tennessee State University claimed that Jones spit in her face at a Nashville night club.

Feburary 19, 2007- The facts are disputed and no charges have been made yet, but Jones was in the middle of a fight and shooting at a strip club in Las Vegas that left one man paralyzed and two more wounded. The fight broke out after Jones showered strippers on stage with $81,000 dollars. The club owner claims Jones was beating a strippers head against the bar while claiming to kill one of the club’s employees.

January 3, 2008- Pacman is accused of punching Wanda S. Jackson in the face at an Atlanta strip club called the Body Tap Strip Club. Jackson says Jones reached over the counter and sucker punched her in her left eye.

The above time line doesn’t include his sentence of one year in prison for a bar fight in Morgantown, West Virginia while in college. The sentence was later suspended in exchange for two years of probation (because he is a really good football player).
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:41 PM   #43
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Teams can have language written into contracts that prohibit players from doing things like... sky diving, skiing, etc... correct? Why couldn't a team put wording in about a strip club? I'm no lawyer and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, so I'm not seeing the difference really.
That's a good point. Put it in the contract with major salary hits if he breaks the rules.

I've always thought that teams should just pay some outgoing guy with strong character $50,000 a year to be the "bodyguard" of guys like Pacman and Pre-reform Jared and that defensive tackle for the Bears. Seems like a small investment.
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How many "opportunities" does this guy get?
If you have "All World Athletic Talent" your sins will be overlooked many times.

There are very few people in the world who can play at the level he does week in week out.

Vick will be given another chance as well.

Millions cheer on Kobe Bryant every night.
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If you have "All World Athletic Talent" your sins will be overlooked many times.

There are very few people in the world who can play at the level he does week in week out.

Vick will be given another chance as well.

Millions cheer on Kobe Bryant every night.
That doesn't make it right, and I applaud Goodell for taking a stand.
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