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Old 03-12-2008, 07:51 PM  
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Ted Sundquist OUT as Broncos General Manager
Per Sirius NFL Radio Network.

I guess they expect more out of their front office in Denver, since they haven't won a Super Bowl in a decade. Carl truly is invincible here.


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Old 03-13-2008, 08:30 AM   #31
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Did he not follow Shanahan's orders or something?
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:50 AM   #32
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this guy gets fired after a few mediocre seasons, 2 straight Superbowl wins. Why the fuck is Carl still here? Zero playoff wins in the past 15 years. I'm not sure if this organization even cares about winning.
Not exactly. Sundquist was with the Broncos for 16 years, but he was the GM only since 2001. He started out as a scout.

I don't remember who the GM was during the SB years.

Just FYI.
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:52 AM   #33
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Did he not follow Shanahan's orders or something?
The Broncos have definitely taken a different approach towards free-agency this year. I don't think they were happy with Sundquist's personnel moves from a character standpoint. They've been kind of edging him out for a couple months.
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Old 03-13-2008, 10:16 AM   #34
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Interesting. Shanny better start putting up some wins, he doesn't have many more personnel moves he can make.
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Old 03-13-2008, 10:18 AM   #35
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It would be nice to see Carl, and Shanny fired next off-season. Talk about clean slate.
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It would be nice to see Carl, and Shanny fired next off-season. Talk about clean slate.
They will probably both have surprisngly good seasons this year and secure their positions for life or longer.
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Rat would have to nosedive the '08 season into the toilet to get fired, and Carl has a gypsy curse on the Hunts, preventing them from firing him.
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In case anyone here cares about the backstory....Sundquist learned that when you mess with the bull you get the horns.

Writing on the wall for fall guyBy Mark Kiszla
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 03/13/2008 09:43:51 AM MDT


After 16 years of playing the good soldier for the Broncos, general manager Ted Sundquist was shown the door Wednesday, and told to march. It was a crummy way to say goodbye to a loyal man.

But he had to go.

Coach Mike Shanahan required a scapegoat for yet another disappointing football season. Sundquist, a 45-year-old graduate of the Air Force Academy who had diligently worked his way up from the bottom at Broncos headquarters, was sick and tired of being the fall guy. Their long uneasy relationship crumbled under the weight of defeat.

Although Sundquist was dumped at the dinner hour and his departure was announced in an impersonal written statement of 61 cold, terse words by Shanahan, this was a bad ending waiting to happen and months in the making.

As general manager of a chronically underachieving team plagued by bad personnel decisions that included ballyhooed acquisitions from receiver Javon Walker to defensive tackle Sam Adams that went wrong, Sundquist constantly found himself in the no-win position of holding scant power while taking much of the blame.

Those frustrations came spilling out in an electronic message Sund- quist sent me Dec. 3, as yet another unsatisfying Broncos season unraveled.

"I'm personally willing to stand up for the decisions that have been made, but understand I don't necessarily agree with them. The military taught me a lot about how to handle situations like that," Sundquist wrote, after the Broncos blew a road game to lowly Oakland that dropped their record to 5-7.

Within 24 hours of the discouraging defeat, Sundquist fired off a lengthy, unsolicited e-mail. He shared the unenviable challenges of working for a football franchise ruled at the top by Shanahan, and the criticism always rolled downhill, falling on the head of a quarterback, defensive coordinator or general manager.

Although Sundquist made the predictable statements about being "disappointed" and "surprised" during interviews immediately after his dismissal, he clearly was aware of a major disconnect between himself and Shanahan regarding the way the Broncos conducted business.

"The question isn't whether Mike is getting the right advice, as much as how it is being used. I think the assumption that our personnel department has somehow let him down and that Denver needs to hire a 'guru' to get things right is a bit off," Sundquist had informed me in December.

"I do enjoy my job and understand its responsibilities. This position might be as difficult as there is in the NFL. I'm also extremely confident that if I were to be supplanted as the GM by some 'guru' that I would land on my feet fairly well and probably in an even larger capacity. That's not meant as arrogant, it's just knowing the business."

Long disappointed about being the invisible man on an NFL organizational chart, Sundquist applied for front-office jobs in Chicago and Seattle during recent years, only to be eliminated from consideration late in the interview process.

He penned a blog for the team's website and made a weekly appearance on a local television station during the season to increase his profile in a city of Broncomaniacs, many of whom always assumed Shanahan was the de facto general manager.

With Denver dealing with frequent changes in recent years at defensive coordinator, the difficult challenge for Sundquist was to provide players for a unit that lacked the continuity any defense requires to establish a strong identity.

The expensive risk taken on running back Travis Henry, whose injury-plagued season became filled with controversial court revelations he had fathered nine children from nine women, was a roll of the dice because the Broncos switched from swift tailbacks such as Clinton Portis favored by former offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak to a powerful, move-the-chains runner more befitting of Shanahan's style.

A general manager should be able to shape a football team as he envisions. Sundquist filled orders like a stock clerk. It was a thankless task doomed to failure.

When Sundquist openly questioned how much ability veteran defender John Lynch had lost during an interview with The Denver Post late in the season, Lynch was incensed and the Pro Bowl safety made his displeasure known at Dove Valley. The plug immediately was pulled on Sundquist's TV appearances, and his long career with the Broncos began fading to black.

Late last month, Lynch agreed to a new contract with the Broncos.

On his way home to supper Wednesday evening, Sundquist was summoned to Shanahan's office and fired.

Mark Kiszla: 303-954-1053 or mkiszla@denverpost.com
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Shanny is an arrogant prick. God I ****ing hate him.
Arrogance and NFL head coach go together much more often than not.
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"... because the Broncos switched from swift tailbacks such as Clinton Portis favored by former offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak to a powerful, move-the-chains runner more befitting of Shanahan's style."

Ron Dayne is like Portis?

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I think it's funny that so many of you get riled up about this type of thing.

It's Bowlen's team, I am just a fan... I can't control any of it. If the thought is that Shanahan is best to make the call around there, then so be it. I don't know what all goes on behind the scenes. I have no idea if Ted is worth a damn or not.
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Shanny has a lot of Al Davis qualities. As a Chiefs fan that's great news.
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