Poop 6 picks...and only 1 head scratcher - Page 3

**the Talking Can** · 09:24 AM

people aren't thrilled with Cottam....fine, there were other options there

but the other 5 picks are solid BAA and all will contribute in some fashion immediately...

that's much better ratio than we were expecting.....the least pain-inducing 6 picks in Chiefs history...great great VALUE

This is what "sticking to your board" looks like, and how you avoid Bartees, Siaviis, and Wilsons:

Round 1, Pick 5 (5) Glenn Dorsey DT 6'2" 316 LSU
Pick Analysis: Dorsey's dominance should go a long way toward helping Kansas City rebuild its defense. He should command double-teams and the Chiefs become better up the middle instantly. There were some concerns about problems with Dorsey's tibia stress fracture, which may have been the reason he was still on the board at this point. His best traits are outstanding agility and a great motor.

Round 1, Pick 15 (15) (From Lions) Branden Albert OG 6'6" 309 Virginia
Pick Analysis:Albert has the versatility to play guard or tackle in the NFL. He finishes blocks down the field and in space. He started 37 games (35 games at left guard, two at left tackle) for Virginia over three years. Has great overall athletic ability for a big man and could develop into the best offensive lineman in the draft.

Round 2, Pick 4 (35) Brandon Flowers CB 5'10" 189 Virginia Tech
Pick Analysis:With better speed, Flowers would have been a much higher pick. He plays the game faster than his timed speed indicates (4.55). Best traits are good instincts and physical play.

Round 3, Pick 10 (73) (From Broncos through Vikings) Jamaal Charles RB 5'11" 200 Texas
Pick Analysis:The Chiefs take a guy that is likely the best player on their board right now in Charles. He likely fell to the third round due to his lack of strength, but when it comes to speed, he's a break-away back. His playmaking ability makes him a potential situational player that can also catch the ball.

Round 3, Pick 13 (76) (From Lions) Brad Cottam TE 6'8" 270 Tennessee
Pick Analysis:Cottam's problem was the fact that he only started 10 games in five years at Tennessee. He has very impressive size and skills for a tight end to go with speed in the 4.6's. The Chiefs may be looking for a future starter with Tony Gonzalez nearing the end of his career.

Round 3, Pick 19 (82) (From Vikings) DaJuan Morgan S 6'0" 205 North Carolina State
Pick Analysis:Morgan was a one-year starter and raw, but has good athletic ability and potential. He is the type of player who can get better in the pros with good coaching, because of his measurables and potential to develop. He is an excellent special teams player who originally made his mark in the kicking game.

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**jjchieffan** · 04-27-2008, 09:39 AM

Tell me this. From the Jared Allen trade, are you satisfied with a Starting tackle, backup TE, and a potential starting safety instead of 2 starting tackles and a starting wide reciever?

**Bwana** · 04-27-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Tell me this. From the Jared Allen trade, are you satisfied with a Starting tackle, backup TE, and a potential starting safety instead of 2 starting tackles and a starting wide reciever?

Only time will answer that question. It will take more than this years draft to rebuild this team as well.

irishjayhawk · 04-27-2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Tell me this. From the Jared Allen trade, are you satisfied with a Starting tackle, backup TE, and a potential starting safety instead of 2 starting tackles and a starting wide reciever?

How do you figure?

boogblaster · 04-27-2008, 09:45 AM

Allen wanted to leave .. so go with what we got dealt .. I think if we pick up a WR and get some FA help at OL and WR we'll be better this year ...

Chiefnj2 · 04-27-2008, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by irishjayhawk

How do you figure?

Weren't those the Viking picks?

To me, for now, I would have rather kept the all Pro defensive end.

irishjayhawk · 04-27-2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Weren't those the Viking picks?

To me, for now, I would have rather kept the all Pro defensive end.

I didn't get the 2 starting tackles and 1 starting receiver line.

**the Talking Can** · 04-27-2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Tell me this. From the Jared Allen trade, are you satisfied with a Starting tackle, backup TE, and a potential starting safety instead of 2 starting tackles and a starting wide reciever?

i'm happy the Chiefs stuck to their board....we don't have to draft for next year...we are - thankfully - just taking the best players we can get....

markk · 04-27-2008, 09:52 AM

what is more accurate is, are you happy with Albert, who will likely be a long term starter on the offensive line, and Flowers, who was a steal and first half of the first talent except for his 40 time at the combine... they wouldn't have been able to pick flowers without having had the middle of the first pick to use on the offensive line

**jjchieffan** · 04-27-2008, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by irishjayhawk

I didn't get the 2 starting tackles and 1 starting receiver line.

I was saying we could have had Albert, Doucet, and Nicks.

**the Talking Can** · 04-27-2008, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Weren't those the Viking picks?

To me, for now, I would have rather kept the all Pro defensive end.

people are so determined to be unhappy

you can't evaluate the picks in isolation....the trade caused a ripple effect allowing us to draft BAA instead of reach

if we keep Allen then we probably trade down in the 1st for an OL, missing on Dorsey...or Albert...all 3 thirds are picks for the future, even though 2 of them will play right away, imo...value over the long term will pay off

plus we have 30 mill in cap space to spend in the coming years...

siberian khatru · 04-27-2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

value over the long term will pay off

Learn it.

Know it.

Live it.

blueballs · 04-27-2008, 10:34 AM

We need a trampoline champion
for the 2nd day win

Chiefnj2 · 04-27-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

people are so determined to be unhappy

you can't evaluate the picks in isolation....the trade caused a ripple effect allowing us to draft BAA instead of reach

if we keep Allen then we probably trade down in the 1st for an OL, missing on Dorsey...or Albert...all 3 thirds are picks for the future, even though 2 of them will play right away, imo...value over the long term will pay off

plus we have 30 mill in cap space to spend in the coming years...

There is no basis to say that if we kept Allen KC trades down and misses on the best defensive prospect in the draft. The DL could have been great with Tamba, Tyler/Boone, Dorsey and Allen.

Day 2 of the draft is completely underwhelming.

Coach · 04-27-2008, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

One has to think that these picks tell (most of) us that, not only are the Chiefs sticking to their board, they also have higher hopes for guys like Herb Taylor and Rudy Niswanger than the average fan.

Good point. I still would like to spend a 6th or a 7th on a O-line for depth. If we're rebuilding, we might as well rebuild the whole line while we still can, at least for this year.

markk · 04-27-2008, 10:57 AM

whatever. i think people were either going to be pissed about the picks or just be pissed they don't have something to bitch about. we are chiefs fans so we have forgotten what it's like to be happy. the unknown frightens us

04-27-2008, 09:18 AM
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $10022208	6 picks...and only 1 head scratcher people aren't thrilled with Cottam....fine, there were other options there but the other 5 picks are solid BAA and all will contribute in some fashion immediately... that's much better ratio than we were expecting.....the least pain-inducing 6 picks in Chiefs history...great great VALUE This is what "sticking to your board" looks like, and how you avoid Bartees, Siaviis, and Wilsons: Round 1, Pick 5 (5) Glenn Dorsey DT 6'2" 316 LSU Pick Analysis: Dorsey's dominance should go a long way toward helping Kansas City rebuild its defense. He should command double-teams and the Chiefs become better up the middle instantly. There were some concerns about problems with Dorsey's tibia stress fracture, which may have been the reason he was still on the board at this point. His best traits are outstanding agility and a great motor. Round 1, Pick 15 (15) (From Lions) Branden Albert OG 6'6" 309 Virginia Pick Analysis:Albert has the versatility to play guard or tackle in the NFL. He finishes blocks down the field and in space. He started 37 games (35 games at left guard, two at left tackle) for Virginia over three years. Has great overall athletic ability for a big man and could develop into the best offensive lineman in the draft. Round 2, Pick 4 (35) Brandon Flowers CB 5'10" 189 Virginia Tech Pick Analysis:With better speed, Flowers would have been a much higher pick. He plays the game faster than his timed speed indicates (4.55). Best traits are good instincts and physical play. Round 3, Pick 10 (73) (From Broncos through Vikings) Jamaal Charles RB 5'11" 200 Texas Pick Analysis:The Chiefs take a guy that is likely the best player on their board right now in Charles. He likely fell to the third round due to his lack of strength, but when it comes to speed, he's a break-away back. His playmaking ability makes him a potential situational player that can also catch the ball. Round 3, Pick 13 (76) (From Lions) Brad Cottam TE 6'8" 270 Tennessee Pick Analysis:Cottam's problem was the fact that he only started 10 games in five years at Tennessee. He has very impressive size and skills for a tight end to go with speed in the 4.6's. The Chiefs may be looking for a future starter with Tony Gonzalez nearing the end of his career. Round 3, Pick 19 (82) (From Vikings) DaJuan Morgan S 6'0" 205 North Carolina State Pick Analysis:Morgan was a one-year starter and raw, but has good athletic ability and potential. He is the type of player who can get better in the pros with good coaching, because of his measurables and potential to develop. He is an excellent special teams player who originally made his mark in the kicking game. http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-team\|team-kc Last edited by the Talking Can; 04-27-2008 at 09:24 AM..
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markk Veteran Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	what is more accurate is, are you happy with Albert, who will likely be a long term starter on the offensive line, and Flowers, who was a steal and first half of the first talent except for his 40 time at the combine... they wouldn't have been able to pick flowers without having had the middle of the first pick to use on the offensive line
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markk Veteran Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	whatever. i think people were either going to be pissed about the picks or just be pissed they don't have something to bitch about. we are chiefs fans so we have forgotten what it's like to be happy. the unknown frightens us
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