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Old 07-29-2008, 02:23 PM  
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Source: Relationship with Hillman in tatters, Guillen wants out of K.C.

By Enrique Rojas
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Updated: July 29, 2008, 3:37 PM ET

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Left fielder Jose Guillen wants out of Kansas City pronto, according to a source who spoke to ESPNdeportes.com on condition of anonymity.


Guillen feels the Royals have not kept the promises made when he signed for three years and $36 million during the offseason, said the source. But the main reason he is in "living hell in Kansas City" is a foul relationship with manager Trey Hillman.

"Guillen and Hillman are not on speaking terms, they don't talk," said the source. "Guillen is definitely not happy, he's not comfortable and he would do anything he can in economic terms to ease his way out of Kansas City."

When Guillen signed with Kansas City he knew the team wouldn't be a contender in 2008, but he was promised that moves would be made to build a winning team in 2009, said the source.

The 32-year-old is leading the Royals with 14 home runs and 69 RBIs, but he has been nursing a groin injury that kept him out of the lineup on Sunday against the Tampa Bay Rays.

Guillen's bat could help a number of teams in the race for the postseason, but Kansas City has not shown any interest in trading him. The source said Guillen is ready to defer his salary for 2009 and 2010 if it helps increase his value on the trading block.

Enrique Rojas is a reporter for ESPNdeportes.com.
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:46 PM   #31
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First of all Guillen is not a good player, he's remarkably average.

He has an .OBP of 286, FFS, that's just awful. He's a clubhouse cancer who is making 4 times what he should. There's a reason why he's been on almost 10 teams, why he was deactivated by the Angels for trying to fight the manager, and why he never lasts more than a year anywhere.

This is who he is, and to be perfectly honest, it shows how inept Moore is in bringing in free agents.
There are a lot of booing fans that agree with you. I like many of the things Moore has done, but bringing in Guillen is proof that everyone can have a really stupid idea.
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:46 PM   #32
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Why, because he showed up fat and out of shape, sucked the first two months of the season, and has repeatedly embarassed the organization? He hasn't taken nearly enough crap as far as I'm concerned.
I find having players like Mark Teahen, John Buck, Joey Gathright, Ross Gload and the like on the team far more embarrassing than anything Guillens done.
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:49 PM   #33
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I find having players like Mark Teahen, John Buck, Joey Gathright, Ross Gload and the like on the team far more embarrassing than anything Guillens done.
Think about this:

The Royals would have gotten SIX first round picks if they had simply let Dye, Damon, and Beltran WALK.

Look what they turned those guys into. (Granted, previous administration).

The fact that you guys are tying up 23 million into Gil Meche and Jose Guillen--it's just lunacy.

Do everything you can as fans to tell the ownership group to invest in player development and scouting, because you probably have the worst in all of baseball.
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:50 PM   #34
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I find having players like Mark Teahen, John Buck, Joey Gathright, Ross Gload and the like on the team far more embarrassing than anything Guillens done.
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i was at a game just before the all-star break... i was sitting in the left field seats literally shouting compliments to guillen...

"Jose, i like the high socks tonight."

"lookin good Jose."

guess it didn't work
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:51 PM   #35
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Think about this:

The Royals would have gotten SIX first round picks if they had simply let Dye, Damon, and Beltran WALK.

Look what they turned those guys into. (Granted, previous administration).

The fact that you guys are tying up 23 million into Gil Meche and Jose Guillen--it's just lunacy.

Do everything you can as fans to tell the ownership group to invest in player development and scouting, because you probably have the worst in all of baseball.
I'm not disagreeing with you at all, I think you're right.

I just get frustrated at how Jose Guillen even though he isn't a great player is public enemy #1 when we have total scrubs on this team.

When people will stay act like Teahen is part of the future it's maddening.
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:52 PM   #36
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I'm not disagreeing with you at all, I think you're right.

I just get frustrated at how Jose Guillen even though he isn't a great player is public enemy #1 when we have total scrubs on this team.

When people will stay act like Teahen is part of the future it's maddening.
Where did anyone say that? My rub is that Guillen is NOT part of a successful royals future.
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:52 PM   #37
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Think about this:

The fact that you guys are tying up 23 million into Gil Meche and Jose Guillen--it's just lunacy.

Do everything you can as fans to tell the ownership group to invest in player development and scouting, because you probably have the worst in all of baseball.
The Guillen and Meche moves are not bad. They were risks a small market has to take in order to try and get better. The Meche deal has worked out ok for the Royals so far and it's not like he has been Mike Hampton.

As for your second comment, they already are doing that. They are going to sign Mellvile for far over slot and have been aggressively pursuing others in the same situation.
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anyone who has an OBP of less than .300 isn't worth 12M a year...that's for sure
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When people will stay act like Teahen is part of the future it's maddening.
Hes almost ready to bust out. Any day now, i swear. This year its gonna happen.
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anyone who has an OBP of less than .300 isn't worth 12M a year...that's for sure
Where the f*** were you people 2 weeks ago when I said this and was getting trashed for it. I guess it takes a public demand to be traded before we can all agree he wasn't having a great season.
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I'd rather see them spend money on Adam Dunn but they won't do that I'm sure.
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:56 PM   #43
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Where the f*** were you people 2 weeks ago when I said this and was getting trashed for it. I guess it takes a public demand to be traded before we can all agree he wasn't having a great season.
He's obviously not a all star or key cog player, he's a complimentary player, and here he has nothing to compliment.
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I don't see how people can this this proves the Royals suck (I mean they do suck, but I don't blame this on the Royals). Like seven other teams, including the Angels, have had to let this turd go. The common denominator is Guillen. He can hit some, but he's a turd no matter how you slice it. If they can get something for him then trade him. Not because of personality issues, but because a team in the hunt may need him and he's obviously not part of the future.
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