Chiefs How can BC get beat up this bad already? - Page 3

Red Dawg · 08-17-2008, 07:34 AM

Two practice games and he's getting burned at the stake? He has 6 starts and yes they were all loses but it's common knowledge that the whole offense was awful. He was not great last night but he's out of the game before he gets a chance to bounce back.

You gotta give a young QB at least a season for that matter most of them get 3 before they are dubbed to be terrible. BC has had only 6 actual starts.

Cut the kid a break.

OctoberFart · 08-17-2008, 12:30 PM

Everyone here knows in their hearts that Croyle has all the tools but can't stay healthy or put it all together. How many games has he won as a starter?

JuicesFlowing · 08-17-2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind

Everyone here knows in their hearts that Croyle has all the tools but can't stay healthy or put it all together. How many games has he won as a starter?

Completely irrelevant at this point and time. If he were 2-4 instead of 0-6, would it really matter RIGHT NOW? It's about development and getting the new offense going ... Last year's 0-6 doesn't mean anything more than him getting experience.

**Rausch** · 08-17-2008, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind

Everyone here knows in their hearts that Croyle has all the tools but can't stay healthy or put it all together. How many games has he won as a starter?

Same number as that 600lb QB you trot out there this fall...

JuicesFlowing · 08-17-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

If Huard plays well you have a QB controversy.

I hope I never read those words again ... Especially with Huard The Old on our team ...

Pablo · 08-17-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Pigpen is a mess and lucky he ever got on TV...

Don't trash Tyler...He's Atlantic Coastal's finest, and a damn sure step up from Brobie Coyle.

Scrambling rules!!!!

FAX · 08-17-2008, 12:46 PM

I've said it before, but Croyle has disaster written all over him. Clearly, he isn't willing to take a massive hit to the face by a 250 pound defensive end without getting rid of the football first. That's inexcusable. Also, he has thrown incomplete passes. No quarterback will ever make it in this league by throwing incomplete passes. Especially overthrows. And especially overthrows to a receiver who's new to the team. How does he expect these new receivers to get any better if he doesn't throw the ball right to them. I don't see what Herm is waiting for. The sooner Croyle goes, the sooner we can move on to a real quarterback like Fa-Va-Rah or Roger Staubach or Johnny Unitas or Bart Starr.

FAX

Rasputin · 08-17-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

I've said it before, but Croyle has disaster written all over him. Clearly, he isn't willing to take a massive hit to the face by a 250 pound defensive end without getting rid of the football first. That's inexcusable. Also, he has thrown incomplete passes. No quarterback will ever make it in this league by throwing incomplete passes. Especially overthrows. And especially overthrows to a receiver who's new to the team. How does he expect these new receivers to get any better if he doesn't throw the ball right to them. I don't see what Herm is waiting for. The sooner Croyle goes, the sooner we can move on to a real quarterback like Fa-Va-Rah or Roger Staubach or Johnny Unitas or Bart Starr.

FAX

Yea or better yet, QBs like Dave Kreig, Steve Bono, Joe Montana in his late prime years, Grrbaclk yep there you go. oh or a 11 year clipboard holding vet Huard F***YEA!

**luv** · 08-17-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

I've said it before, but Croyle has disaster written all over him. Clearly, he isn't willing to take a massive hit to the face by a 250 pound defensive end without getting rid of the football first. That's inexcusable. Also, he has thrown incomplete passes. No quarterback will ever make it in this league by throwing incomplete passes. Especially overthrows. And especially overthrows to a receiver who's new to the team. How does he expect these new receivers to get any better if he doesn't throw the ball right to them. I don't see what Herm is waiting for. The sooner Croyle goes, the sooner we can move on to a real quarterback like Fa-Va-Rah or Roger Staubach or Johnny Unitas or Bart Starr.

FAX

This is why the Chiefs have never developed a QB.

FAX · 08-17-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

This is why the Chiefs have never developed a QB.

Developing quarterbacks is vastly overrated, Ms. luv. You spend all this time and money and draft picks to find a guy. Then, what do you have? An incomplete pass thrower. That's what. And a chicken. An incomplete pass thrower and a chicken who throws the ball away instead of taking the sack and the elbow shot to the eye socket like a real man. And an overthrower. An incomplete pass thrower and a chicken and a guy who overthrows another guy just because the offensive line hasn't blocked a few guys. What's that about? Just because a few measly defensive tackles are running free into the pocket and sticking their hands in your face doesn't mean you can just overthrow a guy. It's disrespectful to the game. No. We'd be better off with a quarterback who knows how to play real football on day one.

FAX

vailpass · 08-17-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Developing quarterbacks is vastly overrated, Ms. luv. You spend all this time and money and draft picks to find a guy. Then, what do you have? An incomplete pass thrower. That's what. And a chicken. An incomplete pass thrower and a chicken who throws the ball away instead of taking the sack and the elbow shot to the eye socket like a real man. And an overthrower. An incomplete pass thrower and a chicken and a guy who overthrows another guy just because the offensive line hasn't blocked a few guys. What's that about? Just because a few measly defensive tackles are running free into the pocket and sticking their hands in your face doesn't mean you can just overthrow a guy. It's disrespectful to the game. No. We'd be better off with a quarterback who knows how to play real football on day one.

FAX

Luv if you look straight up in the air you might see Fax's point. It is about 500 feet over your head.

OctoberFart · 08-17-2008, 01:22 PM

Chiefs should of traded up for a real QB prospect the past few years. Cutler, Russel, Rivers, Young, Lienert, Big Ben etc..

Pablo · 08-17-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind

KC Chiefs (the best team ever) should of traded up for a real QB prospect the past few years. Cutler, Russel, Rivers, Young, Lienert, Big Ben etc..

Of those QB's listed, Cutler and Roethlisberger are the only ones who will do sh*t in this league.

PastorMikH · 08-17-2008, 01:29 PM

I haven't had a chance to really watch the game yet, the internet feed was so choppy I didn't really get a good look.

But, how is it that Brodie did so bad? I didn't see any INTs in his stats, it sounds like instead of throwing downfield he was throwing underneath - taking what was given to him instead of forcing it. The only think I see in his stat line is he was just over 50% on passing. A few of those incompletes came because no one was able to get open and he threw the ball away to keep from doing something bad and a couple of others hit recievers in the hands but not caught. Personally, I'd rather he throw it away than to force the ball into double and triple coverage.

He did take the team downfield on a 10 play scoring drive to start the game. He didn't turn the ball over, he was something like 6 of 8 passing in the first quarter. I don't get it, what was so terrible about the way he played?

PastorMikH · 08-17-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

I've said it before, but Croyle has disaster written all over him. Clearly, he isn't willing to take a massive hit to the face by a 250 pound defensive end without getting rid of the football first. That's inexcusable. Also, he has thrown incomplete passes. No quarterback will ever make it in this league by throwing incomplete passes. Especially overthrows. And especially overthrows to a receiver who's new to the team. How does he expect these new receivers to get any better if he doesn't throw the ball right to them. I don't see what Herm is waiting for. The sooner Croyle goes, the sooner we can move on to a real quarterback like Fa-Va-Rah or Roger Staubach or Johnny Unitas or Bart Starr.

FAX

Mr Fax, would you stand still and let a 250 pound defensive end run at top speed towards you and hit you in the face?

I weigh more than that DE, but I'm not going to let him hit me if I can avoid him.

Pablo · 08-17-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH

I don't get it, what was so terrible about the way he played?

He didn't play like he was drafted in the 1st round, and he didn't play like a 14 year vet, so naturally a good deal of CP hated his performance.

08-17-2008, 07:34 AM
Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $4462858	How can BC get beat up this bad already? Two practice games and he's getting burned at the stake? He has 6 starts and yes they were all loses but it's common knowledge that the whole offense was awful. He was not great last night but he's out of the game before he gets a chance to bounce back. You gotta give a young QB at least a season for that matter most of them get 3 before they are dubbed to be terrible. BC has had only 6 actual starts. Cut the kid a break.
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08-17-2008, 12:30 PM	#31
OctoberFart Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10006091	Everyone here knows in their hearts that Croyle has all the tools but can't stay healthy or put it all together. How many games has he won as a starter?
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08-17-2008, 12:46 PM	#36
FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	I've said it before, but Croyle has disaster written all over him. Clearly, he isn't willing to take a massive hit to the face by a 250 pound defensive end without getting rid of the football first. That's inexcusable. Also, he has thrown incomplete passes. No quarterback will ever make it in this league by throwing incomplete passes. Especially overthrows. And especially overthrows to a receiver who's new to the team. How does he expect these new receivers to get any better if he doesn't throw the ball right to them. I don't see what Herm is waiting for. The sooner Croyle goes, the sooner we can move on to a real quarterback like Fa-Va-Rah or Roger Staubach or Johnny Unitas or Bart Starr. FAX
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08-17-2008, 01:22 PM	#41
OctoberFart Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10006091	Chiefs should of traded up for a real QB prospect the past few years. Cutler, Russel, Rivers, Young, Lienert, Big Ben etc..
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08-17-2008, 01:29 PM	#43
PastorMikH Will KC ever be better? Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Land of Red Dirt & Necks Casino cash: $9925087	I haven't had a chance to really watch the game yet, the internet feed was so choppy I didn't really get a good look. But, how is it that Brodie did so bad? I didn't see any INTs in his stats, it sounds like instead of throwing downfield he was throwing underneath - taking what was given to him instead of forcing it. The only think I see in his stat line is he was just over 50% on passing. A few of those incompletes came because no one was able to get open and he threw the ball away to keep from doing something bad and a couple of others hit recievers in the hands but not caught. Personally, I'd rather he throw it away than to force the ball into double and triple coverage. He did take the team downfield on a 10 play scoring drive to start the game. He didn't turn the ball over, he was something like 6 of 8 passing in the first quarter. I don't get it, what was so terrible about the way he played? __________________
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