Worst Coach in Football?

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[chiefsngop]

Does anyone remember what happened when Teflon Herm Edwards brought his Jets to Arrowhead Stadium ? I do. My throat was hoarse from cheering, and my hands sore from clapping. It was like arena ball...........

If Herm is such a great coach, and this team was truly collapsing when he arrived, why didn't he start the great rebuilding effort from day one ?

[KCCHIEFS27]

Okay, great we went from really good(vermeil) to horrible(Herm). Now let's switch the view to the defense..we went from PATHETIC(Vermeil) to above average(Herm). Not only that, but this guy is actually claiming that Damon Huard is a GOOD quarterback...what the hell? This guy is an idiot.

[Baby Lee]

Chiefs without Roaf, Shields, Holmes, Richardson and Green.

About the same as the Cowboys without Newton, Stepnoski, Smith, Johnston and Aikman.

[bogey]

I was dropping my kid off at her first day of fifth grade this morning. One of my buddies a HUGE Jets fan came up to me and was excited about the count down to football. I told him I'm excited because, finally after several years of suckage, we're trying to rebuild. I don't expect a great season, but we're finally moving in the right direction. He patted me on the back with sympathy and said I have four letters. H E R M

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Do you remember how bad Dante was in his last Chiefs season? He showed a complete inability to go north/south. He was moving laterally way too much, trying to force an amazing return out of nothing every time. He had the dropsies, too.

Can't go anywhere when no one is blocking for you.

It's not that hard to figure out.

Fact: We are in much worse shape now without Dante than we were before.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by chiefsngop

Does anyone remember what happened when Teflon Herm Edwards brought his Jets to Arrowhead Stadium ? I do. My throat was hoarse from cheering, and my hands sore from clapping. It was like arena ball...........

If Herm is such a great coach, and this team was truly collapsing when he arrived, why didn't he start the great rebuilding effort from day one ?

Carl

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Chiefs without Roaf, Shields, Holmes, Richardson and Green.

About the same as the Cowboys without Newton, Stepnoski, Smith, Johnston and Aikman.

Except those Dallas teams had about just as many probowlers on the othe side of the ball as well.

[Hammock Parties]

Over the last two years in Kansas City, Huard has completed 354 of 576 passes (61.5%) for 4,135 yards, 7.2 YPA, 22 TDs, 14 INTs, and an 85.7 passer rating in 18 starts (9-9).

BOW DOWN, HATERS. BOW BEFORE DOWNFIELD!

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Except those Dallas teams had about just as many probowlers on the othe side of the ball as well.

Well, yeah . . .

Are you new here, or just had me on ignore. I'm the guy who advocated fielding our _efense in field hockey skirts back in DV's days.

[T-post Tom]

hates everything and anything associated with the JETS. Including Herm. I'm not a Herm apologist or his biggest fan, but the author of the article didn't mention Solari once in the article. Do we really know who hired Solari? Did Peterson and/or Hunt ram the hiring down Herm's throat? We just don't know. My guess is that it was another Arrowhead case of loyalty prevailing over common sense. O-line coaches generally don't make the best OCs. I think that Solari was given autonomy on the play-calling and was the main problem regarding the offensive scheme and play-calling. I'm willing to give Herm this season to prove his salt. Herm is not unlike Dick Vermeil in that he should have an experienced coordinator on the side of the ball that he doesn't specialize in. He has that now in Gailey. That's just MHO, but I'm much more confident with Gailey over Solari. The Herm-haters may well be proven right after this season. If so, I'll be the first to jump on the bandwagon for a new head coach after this season. If not, maybe we'll all be a little more optimistic on the prospect of success in the playoffs. This season's bottom line for Herm's tenure: appropriate development of current players, overall prudent play-calling on both sides of the ball and no less than six wins.

Back to the original post. Here's an excerpt that exposes the tactics of Kerry J. Byrne(Cold Hard Football Facts.com). Some might say that they're not far removed from the tactics of KC's own Jason Whitlock. (i.e. "Sack the Hack"; 810 exodus, 610 exodus, ESPN exodus, etc.)


...Earlier this year, Byrne’s site famously partnered with Bruce Allen’s Boston Sports Media Watch to compose an open letter titled “Fire Ron Borges.” The screed, which ran nearly 5,000 words (slightly longer than the U.S. Constitution), attacked Borges for being a “tactless hack” who “lacks objectivity” and “makes things up,” and is “wrong about virtually everything.” It accused Borges of being a “bully” and “culturally insensitive.” It stopped short of implying that he drop-kicks orphans and donates money to Hamas, but not by much.
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The crux of Byrne and Allen’s piece—which ran on both men’s websites—dealt with what they perceive to be unreasonable anti-Pats animus on the part of Borges. Specifically, they wanted to know how Borges could criticize Belichick when he’s won three Super Bowls. As further evidence of Borges’s bias, they quoted the following exchange from a radio appearance on 1510 AM:

Caller: “Most of us trust [Belichick]...he’s got a little bit of a track record around here.”
Borges: “Yeah, well, Emperor Hirohito had a big lead in the early days, too.”

“At least I didn’t call him Hitler,” Borges says. “Sure, I’ve said things that would’ve been best left unsaid. I think I have a sense of humor that’s not for everybody. Sometimes I wish I had a better filter. But then I wouldn’t be where I am. Or it would be phony. And that’s worse to me.”

The main objective of Byrne and Allen’s piece was to solicit e-mails demanding Borges’s immediate dismissal. (Byrne says he received about 1,000 e-mails, all of which were also sent to the Globe; the paper contends the number is closer to a few hundred.) It was talk radio fodder for weeks. Still is, from time to time. Byrne, for one, refuses to let it die. “Borges lets his dislike for Belichick and the Pats cloud his judgment and how he covers the team,” he says.

“It’s not personal,” says Borges. “I don’t know Belichick well enough for it to be personal. He’s a great coach. But there’s not much else that’s redeeming about him—which will get me in trouble with people, but it’s true. People beat me up for saying I’d rather have Tony Dungy as my coach.” Borges has been touting the relative merits of the non–Super Bowl–winning coach for years, much to the frothing displeasure of local fans. “How many times do I have to say it? Dungy has never been on the front page of a tabloid newspaper for something other than football. That’s why I’d take him over Belichick.”

Between sips of his smoothie, Borges stops walloping Belichick long enough to show off the football knowledge that has propelled him into one of the top newspaper jobs in town. With professorial aplomb, he explains the intricacies of running pass routes, of why it’s not always the quarterback’s fault when a ball is thrown short and incomplete. Maybe the receiver ran 14 yards when he was supposed to go 11. The lesson is thorough (if a bit dry), and points to the fact that it’s not all bluster with Borges. He’s gained infamy, sure, but also respect. Since 1999, he’s been named the state’s sportswriter of the year five times by the National Sportswriters and Sportscasters Association.

“No one in Boston knows more about the NFL than Ron Borges,” writes Globe sports editor Joe Sullivan in an e-mail. Even Borges’s peers concede this point. “If you have no knowledge behind what you’re saying, if you’re just throwing bombs, that loses its impact really quick,” says Mike Felger, the Herald’s Pats beat writer. “Ron knows things. He talks to people. He’s been covering the team for a while.”http://www.bostonmagazine.com/articles/mr_popularity/

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Well, yeah . . .

Are you new here, or just had me on ignore. I'm the guy who advocated fielding our _efense in field hockey skirts back in DV's days.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Blame Solari and all the other stuff if you want.
If Chan's offense turns out to be the sputter putt the Chiefs had last year we can rightfully claim Herm as the great destroyer of offenses (on the teams he coaches). He is the reason for Croyles piss poor play and confidence as well. Who in their right mind would let Dick Curl coach their QB?

[Zouk]

So stupid. A coach who makes the playoffs 4 times in 7 years is the worst in football? Any douchebag can have a website nowadays.

[Hammock Parties]

On a more serious note, this is absurdity. Herm is not an elite head coach, but he's nowhere near the worst in the league. I'd say he's a slightly above average head coach who needs an elite player to put him over the hump.

[MGRS13]

Originally Posted by Claythan

On a more serious note, this is absurdity. Herm is not an elite head coach, but he's nowhere near the worst in the league. I'd say he's a slightly above average head coach who needs an elite player to put him over the hump.

An elite player? He needs an elite team to ignore him. Plus two elite coaches to run the offense and defense for him.