Man vs. Wild

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

Les Stroud sets up camp and waits for the rescue crew to come and get him after a week.


Gryllis actively seeks civilization, and demonstrates how to react to situations along the way. I don't care if he sometimes staged things for the camera or stayed in a hotel on a couple of occasions. He still performs all the things you see on the show. I'd rather see how to set a snare or save yourself from quicksand than some out of shape reerun huffing and puffing as he talks to his camera about how much of a pain it was to lug his 20 pound camera and set it up.

Not always. Most of the time he has to make his wat to the base camp.

I guess staying all night in a motel is tougher though, i.e. man vs. wild.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Not always. Most of the time he has to make his wat to the base camp.

I guess staying all night in a motel is tougher though, i.e. man vs. wild.

of course out of all the episodes, Gryllis only stayed in a hotel in a couple of instances.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

of course out of all the episodes, Gryllis only stayed in a hotel in a couple of instances.

That is a couple more than Les Stroud ever has.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Originally Posted by petegz28

That is a couple more than Les Stroud ever has.

aside from those times Stroud tapped out and got picked up early.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

to each his own, my idea of entertainment isn't watching Les Stroud huff and puff his way back and forth from his camera setup counting the days until the chopper comes back.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

to each his own, my idea of entertainment isn't watching Les Stroud huff and puff his way back and forth from his camera setup counting the days until the chopper comes back.

Well, one is surviving for real and one is pretending. Pretend is always mroe fun, I will agree.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Well, one is surviving for real and one is pretending. Pretend is always mroe fun, I will agree.

I'd still say the odds that Gryllis would die during filming are much higher than Stroud.

People don't watch hockey to see skating, and they don't watch auto racing to see the pit stops.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

I'd still say the odds that Gryllis would die during filming are much higher than Stroud.

People don't watch hockey to see skating, and they don't watch auto racing to see the pit stops.

Ber also has people with him, Les does not. Therefore the risk taking takes on a whole new aspect.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

I'd still say the odds that Gryllis would die during filming are much higher than Stroud.

That's only because he does manufactured stunts that nobody in a survival situation should attempt.

[Delano]

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

I'd still say the odds that Gryllis would die during filming are much higher than Stroud.

People don't watch hockey to see skating, and they don't watch auto racing to see the pit stops.

That is true and also the reason noone should take Bear for more than entertainment.

If you are stranded in wilderness, you do not take unnecessary risks. That is rule number one.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Delano

That is true and also the reason noone should take Bear for more than entertainment.

If you are stranded in wilderness, you do not take unnecessary risks. That is rule number one.

Exaclty...if you are stranded by yourself you don't go scaling waterfalls and climbing rocks and such. Unless you just want to get hurt and die a painful death.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Originally Posted by Delano

That is true and also the reason noone should take Bear for more than entertainment.

If you are stranded in wilderness, you do not take unnecessary risks. That is rule number one.

you miss the whole point. It has always been very clear that MvW is to demonstrate how to get out of an extreme situation. the ONLY controversy is that in the first 2 seasons they didn't have explicit cut cards stating that he received assistance or on occasion stayed in a base camp or cabin. But at the end of the day, it was still Gryllis jumping into that river or eating a yak eyeball.

If you're lost in the mountains and near a trail, sure, you sit it out. But if your plane crashes in the middle of the desert and no one knows where you are or is looking for you, you MUST be proactive.


Gryllis jumps into quicksand to demonstrate how to get out of you ever encounter it. He jumps into a sub-freezing lake to show you how to get out and recover once you do.

Obviously 99% of people will never encounter either situation, but if you do, having watched MvW gives you a chance because he shows you how to handle it.

Stroud doesn't show anything like that.

[Delano]

I'm not going to slide down a waterfall over finding another route.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Delano

I'm not going to slide down a waterfall over finding another route.

What, you don't think a shattered ankle and dying of gangrene sounds good?

[petegz28]

I won't discount what Bear shows you. But the conditions of which he attempted to portray it was bullshit. And now he has to premise his show that these are basically manufactured scenarios.

all in all, Les is surviving and Bear is showing you what to do in the case you get a hair up your ass and want to worsen your situation.