Chiefs Please post success stories about LBs drafted in the top 5. - Page 3

Frankie · 04-10-2009, 11:46 AM

I know Derrick Thomas was one. But with more and more talk about Aaron Curry as our potential pick I want to know who else justified his high pick as a linebacker.

(Where in the 1st did LT go, btw?)

orange · 04-10-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Crush

... and how many of those LBs have won the Super Bowl (with their original teams)?

1. Lawrence Taylor
2. Willie McGinest
3. Peter Boulware

Who else?

Carl Banks?

LaChapelle · 04-10-2009, 01:02 PM

Ryan Sims is just outside the #5, but he had success putting on the lbs.

JohnnyV13 · 04-10-2009, 01:23 PM

Junior Seau was never a big pass rushing lb. He was also undeniably valuable.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-10-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

Junior Seau was never a big pass rushing lb. He was also undeniably valuable.

So we have to go back almost 20 years to find a non-pass rushing LB (or even one that did rush, but was not as successful) that was actually worth the pick.

That pretty much sums up everything NFL decision makers think about taking a one that high.

**Buck** · 04-10-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

Junior Seau was never a big pass rushing lb. He was also undeniably valuable.

I have to disagree with you there. He was the king of jumping the snap right on time.

He may not have had a lot of sacks, but he was Always double teamed.

bowener · 04-10-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jidar

Here is every LB taken in the top 5 of the draft going back to 1980

2006
#5 Green Bay Packers A. J. Hawk

2000
#2 Washington Redskins LaVar Arrington

1997
#4 Baltimore Ravens Peter Boulware

1996
#2 Jacksonville Jaguars Kevin Hardy

1994
#4 New England Patriots Willie McGinest
#5 Indianapolis Colts Trev Alberts

1993
#4 New York Jets Marvin Jones

1992
#2 Indianapolis Colts Quentin Coryatt
1991
#4 Denver Broncos Mike Croel

1990
#4 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Keith McCants
#5 San Diego Chargers Junior Seau

1989
#4 Kansas City Chiefs Derrick Thomas

1988
#1 Atlanta Falcons Aundray Bruce

1987
#2 Indianapolis Colts Cornelius Bennett

1986
#5 St. Louis Cardinals Anthony Bell

1985
#5 Indianapolis Colts Duane Bickett

1984
#3 New York Giants Carl Banks Outside

1983
#5 San Diego Chargers Billy Ray Smith

1982
#2 Baltimore Colts Johnie Cooks
#3 Cleveland Browns Chip Banks

1981
#2 New York Giants Lawrence Taylor
#5 St. Louis Cardinals E. J. Junior

I noticed a trend for the colts....they liked wasting picks on LB's about every 3 years or so.

SBK · 04-10-2009, 02:14 PM

The only people on that list outside of Seau that were any good were pass rushers.

Then again, I bet Curry can part the line and walk through the trenches on dry land like the line was never even there.

RJ · 04-10-2009, 03:22 PM

That Dick Butkus guy was pretty good, but he probably doesn't count cause he was white and had a crew cut.

Does the LB position have an inordinately high rate of failure when drafted in the top 5?

Saccopoo · 04-10-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Crush

How dare you question Jesus Christ, himself!!! He is the safest can't-miss draft prospect since Tony Mandarich.

Bullshit. Sanchez is the safest pick in this draft.

eazyb81 · 04-10-2009, 03:37 PM

Guys like LT, DT, McGinest, and Boulware played DE in college and basically moved to a standing-up rushing position in the NFL, so they aren't your traditional LBs and should not be compared to Curry.

Probably the best past comp to our situation was when the Jets under Parcells took James Farrior at #8 to play ILB in their 3-4.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-10-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Probably the best past comp to our situation was when the Jets under Parcells took James Farrior at #8 to play ILB in their 3-4.

And he now plays for the Steelers.

Terrible value for the Jets.

Pioli Zombie · 04-10-2009, 04:32 PM

They just have to trade down. Not one player out there justifies a #3 pick.
I might reach with Raji because they have to have a NT to make the 3-4 work. But they should act like they want Sanchez to get a dumbass team to trade.
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RJ · 04-10-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

They just have to trade down. Not one player out there justifies a #3 pick.
I might reach with Raji because they have to have a NT to make the 3-4 work. But they should act like they want Sanchez to get a dumbass team to trade.
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Or, if they can't find a trade, just pass on the pick.

Mecca · 04-10-2009, 04:40 PM

Aaron Curry is Kevin Hardy that's the player I'm reminded of.

Saccopoo · 04-10-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

They just have to trade down. Not one player out there justifies a #3 pick.
I might reach with Raji because they have to have a NT to make the 3-4 work. But they should act like they want Sanchez to get a dumbass team to trade.
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And Raji played in a 4-3 in college. Just because he's a fat ass doesn't necessarily mean that immediately translates to stud 3-4 NT. People are so quick to say that Curry "has never rushed the passer, so he won't be able to do it in the NFL" but happily want to draft a 4-3 DT to play nose in a 3-4.

And I seem to remember that the Chiefs, in the first round, drafted an offensive guard hoping that he'd be able to play tackle effectively in the NFL.

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