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vailpass · 04-24-2009, 05:00 PM

Here is an article from today's local Phoenix paper about Haley with KC. The writer is one of the better sports guys here in town...

Bickley: Haley could shake up NFL
Dan Bickley - Apr. 23, 2009 06:47 PM
The Arizona Republic
Profile: Todd Haley

There's an ongoing wager inside the Cardinals training facility. One side of the money says Todd Haley will get slugged by a Chiefs player before the start of the regular season.

So far, there have been no punches and no payoff. But it's early.
"There are times, and I hate to admit it, when I get out of control a little bit," said Haley, new head coach of the Chiefs. "And as a head coach, you have to keep control. That's something I'll have to work on."

There are many great stories in the NFL 2009. The Cardinals are reigning NFC champions. The Bears finally have a franchise quarterback. And in Kansas City, the wonderfully volatile Haley brings his combative intensity to a team that was 2-14 one season ago.

Is the former Cardinals offensive coordinator ready to be a head coach? Are the Chiefs ready for him?

Haley just turned 42. He never played the game. But he's the son of a football legend, a protege of Bill Parcells and a man unafraid to challenge his players. In Arizona, his constant badgering made Kurt Warner better, and it turned Larry Fitzgerald into the best receiver in football.

"I coach guys hard," he said.

It's football as it should be. But can a brusque, demanding throwback such as Haley succeed as a head coach in the 21st century, in an era when Tom Coughlin had to soften up to save his job?

It's a good question, and one of many that have Haley scratching his head.

"The people I go to for advice and the people that mean a lot to me all say the same thing: 'Be yourself,' " Haley said. "We'll give it a try, and if I have to dial it back a little, I will."

Haley just concluded his first minicamp in Kansas City, and of the 67 players on the roster, 64 showed up. Haley stressed to his players that practice was a big deal, and it had to be done his way, at high speeds. He also made everyone wear red helmets without the famous arrowhead logo. It was a reminder that they were all starting from scratch.

It hasn't been an easy transition. When he first got the job, he met offensive lineman Brian Waters in the hallway, and told the veteran player that he could get 22 players off the street and win two games. Waters was so offended by the "arrogance" of his new coach that he promptly demanded a trade. Meanwhile, the Chiefs finally traded disgruntled tight end Tony Gonzalez on Thursday, and surely, there will be more bruised feelings along the way.

It's also been difficult flushing the Super Bowl loss. Haley and three assistant coaches he imported from Arizona (Clancy Pendergast, Maurice Carthon, Dedric Ward) recently were fitted for their NFC Championship rings, and it reminded them of the pit in their stomach.

Then during one of the team's practices, a Chiefs quarterback threw an interception near the goal line. Only a few of the offensive players hustled to tackle the interceptor. It struck a chord with Haley, who still visualizes James Harrison rumbling down the sidelines for a touchdown after intercepting Warner in the Super Bowl.

He put the play on tape and showed it to his team.

"That one was near and dear," Haley said. "We may not do a lot of things well, but we're going to chase and tackle on interceptions, that's for sure."

Haley is smart, well-trained and highly competitive. He became a household name during the NFC Championship Game. He was verbally assaulted by Anquan Boldin on the sidelines during the game-winning drive, yet never lost his focus. Then in the postgame glow, Fitzgerald thanked him publicly for the tough love, crediting Haley for his mind-boggling improvement.

That put him over the top, effectively landing him in Kansas City, where he might be the next big thing. Or he might rub the wrong guy the wrong way.

"Obviously, I can't say this is a dream come true for me because I never dreamed I'd be a head coach in the NFL," Haley said. "It's unbelievable to me that I have a chance to impact this league."

Here's hoping he shakes things up really well.

www.arizonarepublic.com

LaChapelle · 05-01-2009, 09:32 AM

Haley is such a MF'in prick that...

In training camp, toliet paper will be earned. 1 sheet at a time.

Brock · 05-01-2009, 09:34 AM

It'll be a nice change from the crybabies and nice guys we've had around here in the past.

**DeezNutz** · 05-01-2009, 09:40 AM

If he doesn't act like a nice guy, KC fans will turn on him very, very quickly.

**Rain Man** · 05-01-2009, 09:45 AM

Who's Haley's dad?

B_Ambuehl · 05-01-2009, 10:22 AM

If he were coaching the Raiders or some other team most of yall would be laughing and waiting for the certain implosion. But since he's the coach here all the sudden he's the next big thing.

The degree to which people on this board fail to see this football team objectively never ceases to amaze me. If his former team is taking bets on how long it takes him to get his ass kicked by one of the players that oughta tell you something.

Just Passin' By · 05-01-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

If he were coaching the Raiders or some other team most of yall would be laughing and waiting for the certain implosion. But since he's the coach here all the sudden he's the next big thing.

The degree to which people on this board fail to see this football team objectively never ceases to amaze me. If his former team is taking bets on how long it takes him to get his ass kicked by one of the players that oughta tell you something.

That some of his former players are still every bit the losers that they've always been in the pros?

Mr. Arrowhead · 05-01-2009, 10:25 AM

Todd Haley is the only man in the world that would make Chuck Norris cry

Brock · 05-01-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

If he were coaching the Raiders or some other team most of yall would be laughing and waiting for the certain implosion. But since he's the coach here all the sudden he's the next big thing.

The degree to which people on this board fail to see this football team objectively never ceases to amaze me. If his former team is taking bets on how long it takes him to get his ass kicked by one of the players that oughta tell you something.

Oh, but you're objective. When was the last time this team did something right, in your estimation?

B_Ambuehl · 05-01-2009, 10:39 AM

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That some of his former players are still every bit the losers that they've always been in the pros?p

It tells me that he's a douchebag of epic proportions. The only coach held in anything close to similar regard in recent history was Tom Coughlin his first couple of years in NY. The difference between Coughlin and Haley is Coughlin gets respect...Haley comes across as a punk in over his head with a big f'in mouth. That's why Parcells kicked his ass on the sidelines in Dallas, that's why T.O. stopped all communication with him as position coach, and that's why Boldin bitched him out on the sidelines in AZ. If you respect a football coach he may piss you off but you don't act like that towards him you keep your mouth shut.

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Oh, but you're objective. When was the last time this team did something right, in your estimation?

When they got rid of Herm. Since then few things have been done right IMO.

htismaqe · 05-01-2009, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

If he were coaching the Raiders or some other team most of yall would be laughing and waiting for the certain implosion. But since he's the coach here all the sudden he's the next big thing.

The degree to which people on this board fail to see this football team objectively never ceases to amaze me. If his former team is taking bets on how long it takes him to get his ass kicked by one of the players that oughta tell you something.

B_Ambuehl, the standard in objectivity.

rad · 05-01-2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

It tells me that he's a douchebag of epic proportions. The only coach held in anything close to similar regard in recent history was Tom Coughlin his first couple of years in NY. The difference between Coughlin and Haley is Coughlin gets respect...Haley comes across as a punk in over his head with a big f'in mouth. That's why Parcells kicked his ass on the sidelines in Dallas, that's why T.O. stopped all communication with him as position coach, and that's why Boldin bitched him out on the sidelines in AZ. If you respect a football coach he may piss you off but you don't act like that towards him you keep your mouth shut.

When they got rid of Herm. Since then few things have been done right IMO.

That bolded part is really, really funny. If not for the rest of the post, I would have seen it as sarcasm.

Just Passin' By · 05-01-2009, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

It tells me that he's a douchebag of epic proportions. The only coach held in anything close to similar regard in recent history was Tom Coughlin his first couple of years in NY. The difference between Coughlin and Haley is Coughlin gets respect...Haley comes across as a punk in over his head with a big f'in mouth. That's why Parcells kicked his ass on the sidelines in Dallas, that's why T.O. stopped all communication with him as position coach, and that's why Boldin bitched him out on the sidelines in AZ. If you respect a football coach he may piss you off but you don't act like that towards him you keep your mouth shut.

Tom Jackson assured all of America that the Patriots hated their coach. How'd that one work out in the end? Some modern American athletes can't handle 'hard' coaching. In a group of 53 players on the Cardinals, it should come as no surprise that some of them would be this way.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-01-2009, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Tom Jackson assured all of America that the Patriots hated their coach. How'd that one work out in the end? Some modern American athletes can't handle 'hard' coaching. In a group of 53 players on the Cardinals, it should come as no surprise that some of them would be this way.

None of us has even seen film( with audio )of Haley coaching as a Card or a Chief!

So how's about a nice, big bowl of "stfu and let the man do his job" for lunch?

ORDER UP!

**HemiEd** · 05-01-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Who's Haley's dad?

My memory sucks Kevin, but I believe he was some kind of life long scout for the Steelers.

B_Ambuehl · 05-01-2009, 11:24 AM

Again, if he were coaching the raiders most of the Haley supporters would be laughing at this type of remarks from his former team and waiting for his certain implosion. But since he's our coach he's not a douchebag he's just a "hard-nosed' guy like Bill Parcells.

The same thing happened with Herm. Everybody here knew he was a shitty coach that had no offense and couldn't manage the clock. If he would've gone to the raiders yall woulda been making fun of him from day 1. Instead, a good percentage of people decided to defend him for several years as some type of defensive genius, players coach, and a major upgrade.

If Matt Cassell went anywhere else most people here would have no time comparing him to Scott Mitchell, but since he's here he can't be anything but a saviour.

04-24-2009, 05:00 PM
vailpass Psycho Bag Of Squanch Join Date: Sep 2001 Casino cash: $9594244	ToddHaley to get punched by one of his players? Here is an article from today's local Phoenix paper about Haley with KC. The writer is one of the better sports guys here in town... Bickley: Haley could shake up NFL Dan Bickley - Apr. 23, 2009 06:47 PM The Arizona Republic Profile: Todd Haley There's an ongoing wager inside the Cardinals training facility. One side of the money says Todd Haley will get slugged by a Chiefs player before the start of the regular season. So far, there have been no punches and no payoff. But it's early. "There are times, and I hate to admit it, when I get out of control a little bit," said Haley, new head coach of the Chiefs. "And as a head coach, you have to keep control. That's something I'll have to work on." There are many great stories in the NFL 2009. The Cardinals are reigning NFC champions. The Bears finally have a franchise quarterback. And in Kansas City, the wonderfully volatile Haley brings his combative intensity to a team that was 2-14 one season ago. Is the former Cardinals offensive coordinator ready to be a head coach? Are the Chiefs ready for him? Haley just turned 42. He never played the game. But he's the son of a football legend, a protege of Bill Parcells and a man unafraid to challenge his players. In Arizona, his constant badgering made Kurt Warner better, and it turned Larry Fitzgerald into the best receiver in football. "I coach guys hard," he said. It's football as it should be. But can a brusque, demanding throwback such as Haley succeed as a head coach in the 21st century, in an era when Tom Coughlin had to soften up to save his job? It's a good question, and one of many that have Haley scratching his head. "The people I go to for advice and the people that mean a lot to me all say the same thing: 'Be yourself,' " Haley said. "We'll give it a try, and if I have to dial it back a little, I will." Haley just concluded his first minicamp in Kansas City, and of the 67 players on the roster, 64 showed up. Haley stressed to his players that practice was a big deal, and it had to be done his way, at high speeds. He also made everyone wear red helmets without the famous arrowhead logo. It was a reminder that they were all starting from scratch. It hasn't been an easy transition. When he first got the job, he met offensive lineman Brian Waters in the hallway, and told the veteran player that he could get 22 players off the street and win two games. Waters was so offended by the "arrogance" of his new coach that he promptly demanded a trade. Meanwhile, the Chiefs finally traded disgruntled tight end Tony Gonzalez on Thursday, and surely, there will be more bruised feelings along the way. It's also been difficult flushing the Super Bowl loss. Haley and three assistant coaches he imported from Arizona (Clancy Pendergast, Maurice Carthon, Dedric Ward) recently were fitted for their NFC Championship rings, and it reminded them of the pit in their stomach. Then during one of the team's practices, a Chiefs quarterback threw an interception near the goal line. Only a few of the offensive players hustled to tackle the interceptor. It struck a chord with Haley, who still visualizes James Harrison rumbling down the sidelines for a touchdown after intercepting Warner in the Super Bowl. He put the play on tape and showed it to his team. "That one was near and dear," Haley said. "We may not do a lot of things well, but we're going to chase and tackle on interceptions, that's for sure." Haley is smart, well-trained and highly competitive. He became a household name during the NFC Championship Game. He was verbally assaulted by Anquan Boldin on the sidelines during the game-winning drive, yet never lost his focus. Then in the postgame glow, Fitzgerald thanked him publicly for the tough love, crediting Haley for his mind-boggling improvement. That put him over the top, effectively landing him in Kansas City, where he might be the next big thing. Or he might rub the wrong guy the wrong way. "Obviously, I can't say this is a dream come true for me because I never dreamed I'd be a head coach in the NFL," Haley said. "It's unbelievable to me that I have a chance to impact this league." Here's hoping he shakes things up really well. www.arizonarepublic.com
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B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9795405	Again, if he were coaching the raiders most of the Haley supporters would be laughing at this type of remarks from his former team and waiting for his certain implosion. But since he's our coach he's not a douchebag he's just a "hard-nosed' guy like Bill Parcells. The same thing happened with Herm. Everybody here knew he was a shitty coach that had no offense and couldn't manage the clock. If he would've gone to the raiders yall woulda been making fun of him from day 1. Instead, a good percentage of people decided to defend him for several years as some type of defensive genius, players coach, and a major upgrade. If Matt Cassell went anywhere else most people here would have no time comparing him to Scott Mitchell, but since he's here he can't be anything but a saviour.
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