Chiefs How are we going to replace TG from the draft? - Page 3

chiefsfan1963 · 04-25-2009, 06:04 PM

We have to wait until tomorrow until Chiefs pick again. WIth the remaining picks can they fill the void on offense that was left after trading TG?

Are there sleepers out there in the later rounds that can replace future HOFer TG?

We have Cassel, LJ, and Bowe. This does not look like a powerhouse offense.

Looks like we are not going to put a lot of points on the board.

Looks like we will have to wait until next year's draft to get some offensive weapons. Looks like we'll have at least a top 10 pick maybe even another top 5 unfortunately.

I'm interested in seeing what our Offense will look like this year. It doesn't look great right now.

Micjones · 04-25-2009, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Hey Mic.. did you see how 2 teams traded 2010 first round picks for 2009 2nd round picks today?

I saw that Denver did. I also heard draftniks laughing their heads off about it.
I saw teams make dumb trades at least three times today.
What's that prove?

kstater · 04-25-2009, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Most teams would struggle mightly if their passing game centered around the likes of Dwayne Bowe, Mark Bradley and Bobby Engram.

Unless Pioli makes a last minute move here before the second round comes to an end, it is very disappointing that the Chiefs came away from the first day with nothing, ZERO in the way of upgrading the weapons Cassel will be throwing to next season.

Yeah it's not like they don't have 6 picks tomorrow in a deep offensive draft.

Mr. Krab · 04-25-2009, 07:35 PM

We aren't, Haley's offense doesn't use a tightend as much.

**DaKCMan AP** · 04-25-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

I saw that Denver did. I also heard draftniks laughing their heads off about it.
I saw teams make dumb trades at least three times today.
What's that prove?

If empirical proof that future 1st round picks are devalued an entire round still has you in disbelief then you're hopeless.

FloridaMan88 · 04-25-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Yeah it's not like they don't have 6 picks tomorrow in a deep offensive draft.

Unless they trade for Boldin, the Chiefs aren't getting someone from the draft tomorrow who will come in and instantly become a #1 WR... which is what they need. Bowe is not a #1 guy and will be exposed for all of his shortcomings without Tony Gonzalez next season... UNLESS the Chiefs compliment him with a legit #1 WR.

tommykat · 04-25-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH

I wonder if we wait until the next week or two then offer Arizona the 2nd rounder we got from Atlanta for Boldin.

Finally, A sane person and response!

No ONE can replace Gonzo. Nor should we think it will happen. But, maybe another TE will come along that works with the system.....Remember, There was and never will be another Derrick Thomas! But good players have shown up.

Micjones · 04-25-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

We aren't, Haley's offense doesn't use a tightend as much.

Haley's offense in Arizona had two legitimate #1's on it.
And a guy who could probably be a respectable #2 in Breaston.
And a QB who is used to spreading the ball around and winging it.

Why do we assume that he'll handle the current assortment of players the same way he did in Arizona?

Sheesh... Stop saying that already.

Sully · 04-25-2009, 07:38 PM

I don't think Haley's as big a fan of using the TE as much as we are used to.

Micjones · 04-25-2009, 07:38 PM

Let me back up. I misspoke.
Denver traded a future 1st to move up in the 2nd Round.
That doesn't apply.

Who were the two teams that made trades into the First Round?
Let me inspect both trades.

FloridaMan88 · 04-25-2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tommykat

Finally, A sane person and response!

No ONE can replace Gonzo. Nor should we think it will happen. But, maybe another TE will come along that works with the system.....Remember, There was and never will be another Derrick Thomas! But good players have shown up.

Let's hope the Chiefs offense doesn't fall completely off a cliff without Tony Gonzalez like the Chiefs defense has since DT's death.

And what "good players" have "shown up" on defense to do anything CLOSE to replacing the impact or presence that DT had on the Chiefs defense?

googlegoogle · 04-25-2009, 07:41 PM

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...gs/TSX/2009_WR

Like the OU,Penn St and Miss. WRs'.

**DaKCMan AP** · 04-25-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Two teams made such trades and that serves as empirical data?
One which was laughed off sports radio today for having done so.
And that's proof that picks devalue an entire round?

Peter King's opinion and the guy who created the draft value chart, himself, be damned.

Okay.
SMH.

You still haven't provided any links to JJ"s comment. You're also taking the opinion of a dumbass journalist over what ACTUAL TEAMS and ACTUAL GMs are doing. I could take you outside and show you the sky is blue and you'd argue that it isn't because Peter King says it's purple.

JFC.

I didn't see any teams trade a future first for a first round pick today. Or a future 2nd for a 2nd round pick today.

tommykat · 04-25-2009, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Let's hope the Chiefs offense doesn't fall completely off a cliff without Tony Gonzalez like the Chiefs defense has since DT's death.

And what "good players" have "shown up" on defense to do anything CLOSE to replacing the impact or presence that DT had on the Chiefs defense?

Jared Allen was about the only one....NO ONE can replace DT.

Just like Joe Delaney

acesn8s · 04-25-2009, 07:44 PM

Well, after we aquire the 24th and 90th pick from Atl for Dorsey, then trade Arz for Boldin, Then trade our top pick for Den 2 top pick, then we trade that top pick for Phi top 2 picks, then trade NE top picks, then draft a QB and LB, then...oh wait...

that was the ChiefsPlanet's version of todays draft. What happened again?

**DaKCMan AP** · 04-25-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Let me back up. I misspoke.
Denver traded a future 1st to move up in the 2nd Round.
That doesn't apply.

Who were the two teams that made trades into the First Round?
Let me inspect both trades.

I didn't say any teams made trades into the 1st round. My entire argument is that future 1st round picks are devalued an entire round. That would mean a 1st round pick in 2010 is equivalent to a 2nd round pick in 2009.

Denver traded a 2010 1st round pick for a 2009 2nd round pick.

Carolina traded a 2010 1st round pick for a 2009 2nd round pick.

04-25-2009, 06:04 PM
chiefsfan1963 Veteran Join Date: Oct 2001 Casino cash: $10005060	How are we going to replace TG from the draft? We have to wait until tomorrow until Chiefs pick again. WIth the remaining picks can they fill the void on offense that was left after trading TG? Are there sleepers out there in the later rounds that can replace future HOFer TG? We have Cassel, LJ, and Bowe. This does not look like a powerhouse offense. Looks like we are not going to put a lot of points on the board. Looks like we will have to wait until next year's draft to get some offensive weapons. Looks like we'll have at least a top 10 pick maybe even another top 5 unfortunately. I'm interested in seeing what our Offense will look like this year. It doesn't look great right now.
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