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Old 05-11-2009, 07:55 AM  
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Car buying advice?

Ok, my wife might be selling her chevy trailblazer. She is wanting a car. She really likes the pontiac grand prix. I would prefer something else because i have heard they have a lot of trouble around 100k miles. Plus everyone and their brother has one. What are some good cars that are kind of sporty with 4 doors. And do I get a loan from my bank, or do I try and finance through them? What do I want to look for and what do I want to stay away from with car dealers. I normally have the money through my bank and just go in and offer what I want and they take it or dont and I write a check. I have seen all the good offers on t.v. and thought we might be able to get a better deal through the dealership. Advice?
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:03 AM   #31
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The Chevrolet Malibu was rated the highest in Initial Quality by J.D. Powers and offers a significantly better warranty than any import.
If you really think the quality, exterior and interior of a Chevy Malibu is superior to a typical Honda Accord, you are delusional.
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:04 AM   #32
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Go to google....type in "sludge Toyotas"......then get back to me with what you "know" Oh, BTW, yes I work at a dealership, and I drive a 14 year old domestic with 165000 miles on it every day. My soon to be ex drives a domestic with 185,000 miles.
I drive a Yukon Denali and support US vehicles but that doesn't change the fact that Toyota and Honda absolutley destroy US vehicles for performance and reliability. Anything said to the contrary is a sales pitch.
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:09 AM   #33
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If you really think the quality, exterior and interior of a Chevy Malibu is superior to a typical Honda Accord, you are delusional.
J.D. Powers is an independent testing organization. Toyota and Honda recognizes this because when they win it...they advvertise it. How many times have you been inside a new Malibu?
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:12 AM   #34
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and the profits still go to Japan.
Are we still pretending GM is an american company?
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:13 AM   #35
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Are we still pretending GM is an american company?
I am. For now.
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:20 AM   #36
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Are we still pretending GM is an american company?
sure, why not?
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:36 AM   #37
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sure, why not?
You need to wake up. By the time they're finished, there will probably be more american content on a Honda than there is on a Chevy.
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:43 AM   #38
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You need to wake up. By the time they're finished, there will probably be more american content on a Honda than there is on a Chevy.
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:47 AM   #39
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Laugh all you want, it beats actually paying attention to what's going on I'm sure.

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Old 05-11-2009, 10:50 AM   #40
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I have a 1998 Grand Prix with the 3800 engine in it that turned over 180,000 miles yesterday. The 3800 is a great engine...between a Buick I had with the 3800 that I gave to my folks and the Grand Prix, we put nearly 400,000 miles on the two of them total.

I love my Grand Prix. Mileage is pretty decent, and I've only had a couple of issues-replaced a starter, the rack and pinion, and an alternator.
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:58 AM   #41
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Old 05-11-2009, 11:26 AM   #42
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Old 05-11-2009, 11:27 AM   #43
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You need to wake up. By the time they're finished, there will probably be more american content on a Honda than there is on a Chevy.
In many cases there probably is already.

The Japanese makes are supposed to produce more cars in the US next year than "detroit" will. I'm not biased against them. They employ Americans who work hard for their money just like detroit does.

As for the profits going back to Japan, the shareholders own the company, and they're around the world. Tell the communities in San Antonio or Indiana or Ohio or Alabama that the benefits all go back overseas. Tell the shareholders that. Tell your own 401k that, your funds probably own Toyota and Honda.

And "profit", for that matter, is nonexistent on American carts so it's kind of academic to begin with.
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Old 05-11-2009, 11:33 AM   #44
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People can say what ever they want about imports (sludge and whatnot) the facts are that Toyotas and Hondas on average last longer and hold their value better than anything else. This is not to say that SOME domestics aren't worthy of your dollars. The Malibu is probably a decent car, but for my money you cant beat a Camry or Accord.
I've sold cars for years and have spent my time in the F&I office. Check your credit union, and see if the finance guy at the dealership can beat it.

Also be carefull of doc fees. All dealers charge them, but some are outrageous.
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Old 05-11-2009, 11:38 AM   #45
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capital one auto finance has been good to me. you apply online, they send you a 'blank check' in a couple of days. then you go in there negotiating as if you were a cash buyer. None of the interest rate/payment/selling price shell game.

Plus you can pay the loan and stuff online when you're done. They gave me a great rate but my credit is impeccable. Don't know if they do spotty or bad cred. loans.
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