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Old 07-22-2009, 07:26 AM  
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Chiefs record the next 3 years. Your call.

I'm thinking....
2009-2010
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Some of Pioli's draft picks concern me but its a "In Pioli we trust" mentality for me right now. I just can't believe that all that success in NE was because of Bellicheck. I like his mentality and approach, so far.

Haley conerced me because he was the NFL flavor of the month after the Super Bowl but after I read more about that guy, he just might work out after all. Pioli rode with the guy on road trips to scout players, worked with him as a coach, got to know him as a person and evaluate his coaching knowledge way before this level. Pioli picked him, so that enough for me, right now. He's defintely got the NFL background. How cool would that have been to watch pre-draft film of Lynn Swan at 11 years old with your Dad. We tried having a "players" coach. That didn't work out so well. Why not give a Parcells disciple and disipline approach a try?

sorry if a repost, but its the offseason so if your ticked off...
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Old 07-22-2009, 08:40 AM   #31
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And my opinion is that I don't know enough about this team this year to begin to make any guesses about next year and the year after.
Agreed, but just for sake of conversation:

If Cassel is what Pioli thinks he'll be:

2009: 4-12
2010: 7-9
2011: 9-7
2012: Serious playoff run

If Cassel is a bust:

You may not see a .500 season for the next 5-7 years.
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Old 07-22-2009, 08:41 AM   #32
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Agreed, but just for sake of conversation:

If Cassel is what Pioli thinks he'll be:

2009: 4-12
2010: 7-9
2011: 9-7
2012: Serious playoff run

If Cassel is a bust:

You may not see a .500 season for the next 5-7 years.
You think it's all on Cassel?
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Old 07-22-2009, 08:50 AM   #33
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You think it's all on Cassel?
All on Cassel?

No.

Mostly on Cassel?

Absolutely. He's being touted as a franchise QB.

By signing him this early, we're committed to him for the next half-decade.

If he pulls a Derek Anderson Part Deux, this team won't go anywhere.
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Old 07-22-2009, 08:52 AM   #34
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You think it's all on Cassel?
I can't speak for WP, but I'd say it starts with Cassel.

But we also have to hope that Jackson is the player that Pioli thinks he is, and that at least one of the DEs (Hali, McBride and Studebaker) that is transitioning to LB work out.

We still have to address holes in the O-Line,a dn we'll need to find a RB who is committed to something more than money, and a WR or two to complemet Bowe.

That's a lot of questions and hole to answer and fill.

Theoretically, this team could be a SB contender in 2011 if Pioli makes good decisons in the draft and free agency.

But there are far too many things that need to be addressed to even begin to make an educated guess on the future.
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Old 07-22-2009, 08:53 AM   #35
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All on Cassel?

No.

Mostly on Cassel?

Absolutely. He's being touted as a franchise QB.

By signing him this early, we're committed to him for the next half-decade.

If he pulls a Derek Anderson Part Deux, this team won't go anywhere.
BAH. I don't even want to thinabout that
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Old 07-22-2009, 08:56 AM   #36
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Old 07-22-2009, 08:58 AM   #37
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:09 AM   #38
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All on Cassel?

No.

Mostly on Cassel?

Absolutely. He's being touted as a franchise QB.

By signing him this early, we're committed to him for the next half-decade.

If he pulls a Derek Anderson Part Deux, this team won't go anywhere.
agreed. Cassel is a bust, we are hosed for at least 5 more years.
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agreed. Cassel is a bust, we are hosed for at least 5 more years.
But.....But......We have Tyler Thigpen!
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:16 AM   #40
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All on Cassel?

No.

Mostly on Cassel?

Absolutely. He's being touted as a franchise QB.

By signing him this early, we're committed to him for the next half-decade.

If he pulls a Derek Anderson Part Deux, this team won't go anywhere.
And he could put up Trent Green numbers and the team won't go anywhere.
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And he could put up Trent Green numbers and the team won't go anywhere.
Sure, that could happen.

That would mean Pioli and/or the HC he hired was a complete failure.

But since everyone here seems to think that Pioli can do no wrong, you're scenario is highly unlikely.
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Sure, that could happen.

That would mean Pioli and/or the HC he hired was a complete failure.

But since everyone here seems to think that Pioli can do no wrong, you're scenario is highly unlikely.
Everyone thinks Pioli can do no wrong? Wow, you've gone off the deep end. You have a serious persecution disorder ever since the team decided to go with Cassel instead of Sanchez.
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