Chiefs What makes you a Matt Cassel fan next season? - Page 3

**petegz28** · 01-11-2010, 07:07 PM

What does he have to do to convince you he is worth the starting spot? I won't say worth the $ cause I don't think that will ever happen but, that being said....

smittysbar · 01-11-2010, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

3,800 yds passing, 7.8 yds/attempt, 2-1 TD/Int ratio, passer rating above 90.

With Weis as an OC, in today's NFL that so heavily favors passers, those #s will be what it will take for me to accept Matt Cassel as our starting QB. That makes him right on the fringe of a top 10 QB. I can live with that.

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

In all seriousness, if Pioli acquired Cassel thinking he'd seen his ceiling, then the former is dumb as ****.

Cassel should, eventually, have better numbers than he had in NE. "Should" being the operative word. Any takers?

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RippedmyFlesh · 01-11-2010, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

That isn't what I said but saying "I expect him to play better cause he's a Chief" is pretty naive.

People are saying they want him to do well because he is a chief. Not he WILL do well because he is a chief. There is a difference.

Mecca · 01-11-2010, 08:00 PM

He better get better or we're ****ed simply put, now do I expect it, that's a different story.

Coogs · 01-11-2010, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Flashes of goodness surrounded by giant gloms of badness interspersed with glaring examples of absolute stupidity.

Sounds a lot like the dude from the Raiders. Had one good drive against the Chiefs to beat us. Other than that FAIL. Pretty much what we saw out of Cassel all season long as well.

Hope like hell Clausen lasts until #5 and don't look back.

DJ's left nut · 01-11-2010, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

So you expect him to be better than he was in NE (89.4 QB rating) when he was throwing to Welker & Moss?

I want him to be a top 10 quarterback, those are the #s commensurate with a top 10 QB. The question asked what it would take for me to be a fan of Matt Cassel. I think asking him to be in the top 1/3 of the league is hardly unreasonable.

So yes, those are the numbers that will take me to be a fan of his.

Now as to your question - do I "expect" him to do that? Oh hell no, I expect him to once again suck because he is, in fact, a lousy quarterback.

So using the good ol' transitive property, I think it's fair to say that I don't expect to be purchasing a Matt Cassel jersey next season.

Deberg_1990 · 01-11-2010, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He better get better or we're ****ed simply put, now do I expect it, that's a different story.

If money were no object, would you draft a QB at #4 if you were GM?

Coogs · 01-11-2010, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

If money were no object, would you draft a QB at #4 if you were GM?

Yes, but we pick #5.

Mecca · 01-11-2010, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

If money were no object, would you draft a QB at #4 if you were GM?

If I were taking the job now?

99% sure I would.

Norman Einstein · 01-11-2010, 08:05 PM

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I saw things he did good along with the bad. Trent Green started out not doing well, he had reasons. First year back after a knee operation and adapting to a new team and surrounding cast. Cassel has some adjusting to do as well as the Chiefs have their work cut out for them in getting a better surrounding cast.

I don't expect the playoffs next season, but it would be nice for them to get there. In the near future I want to be able to go the full season and deep into the playoffs before I hear the old catch phrase in KC, "There's always next year!" It seems for 3 years we've been hearing that phrase before mid season.

Chiefnj2 · 01-11-2010, 08:06 PM

I expect Weis to improve the playcalling, work on Cassel's mechanics, and reduce the # of sacks. It's hard to guess at a completion % or # of TDs/INTs with the worthless receiving corps.

RippedmyFlesh · 01-11-2010, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He better get better or we're ****ed simply put, now do I expect it, that's a different story.

Exactly
I WANT him to do well . Doesn't mean I am betting mortgage on it. He should be a top 10 qb and that is the standard I will hold him to next year.Giving 2 years isn't being impatient yet enough time to know if it's ever gonna happen.

Coogs · 01-11-2010, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I expect Weis to improve the playcalling

The play calling the last couple of games was actually pretty darn good. Good mix of Charles and the play action pass.

Mecca · 01-11-2010, 08:11 PM

I'm not sure how playcalling is going to make Cassel more accurate down the field, unless we're going to throw tons of screens and swing passes.

DaWolf · 01-11-2010, 08:11 PM

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**Tribal Warfare** · 01-11-2010, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh

Exactly
I WANT him to do well . Doesn't mean I am betting mortgage on it. He should be a top 10 qb and that is the standard I will hold him to next year.Giving 2 years isn't being impatient yet enough time to know if it's ever gonna happen.

Actually next year would his 3rd year as the starter(including NE), and thus it will be on him in making or breaking his career

01-11-2010, 07:07 PM
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Norman Einstein MVP Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Casino cash: $10004900	I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I saw things he did good along with the bad. Trent Green started out not doing well, he had reasons. First year back after a knee operation and adapting to a new team and surrounding cast. Cassel has some adjusting to do as well as the Chiefs have their work cut out for them in getting a better surrounding cast. I don't expect the playoffs next season, but it would be nice for them to get there. In the near future I want to be able to go the full season and deep into the playoffs before I hear the old catch phrase in KC, "There's always next year!" It seems for 3 years we've been hearing that phrase before mid season.
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6674388	I expect Weis to improve the playcalling, work on Cassel's mechanics, and reduce the # of sacks. It's hard to guess at a completion % or # of TDs/INTs with the worthless receiving corps. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-532950	I'm not sure how playcalling is going to make Cassel more accurate down the field, unless we're going to throw tons of screens and swing passes.
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