Chiefs Eric Berry debate article - Page 3

Hammock Parties · 05-07-2010, 10:27 AM

http://kan.scout.com/2/968525.html

Over the next two weeks, we’ll dissect the impact of the Chiefs draft picks and the top un-drafted free agents the team signed that may or may not help the Chiefs win more games in 2010. First up Tennessee Safety Eric Berry.

Josh Scotten (Point):

When former Tennessee defensive coordinator, Monte Kiffin converted Berry to a more prototypical safety when he revamped the Volunteer defense, however Berry’s numbers dropped significantly after the conversion. Even with the help of one of the best front sevens in college football last season which included big Dan Williams, who was drafted 26th overall in last months draft, Berry’s numbers plummeted from a combined 12 int. his first two seasons to only two in his final frame as a Volunteer.

With the Chiefs boasting one of the NFL’s most forgettable defensive lines a year ago, which often left its defensive backs on islands for longer stints than Gilligan and his crew, this could pose a significant problem for the much revered young safety.

Although often referred to as one of the most athletic safeties to ever come out of college football, Berry’s athleticism could potentially be a hindrance to his success.

With Berry’s ability to stuff the run, sometimes he bites too soon and that makes him susceptible to play action passes. You add to this a propensity to shoulder tackle instead of wrapping up oncoming ball carriers, he starts to resemble a few former Chiefs, Dexter McCleon and Bernard Pollard.

New Chiefs Defensive Coordinator, Romeo Crennel may be able to solve what could be simple mental errors. But when you factor Berry’s flaws they could potentially thwart Berry’s overall success.

The safety position requires raw instinct and unflappable reaction time. If he’s ever feels overloaded, that could result in sluggish play and another early first round blunder by the Kansas City Chiefs.

Nicholas Athan (Counterpoint):

There were plenty of people who were thorwn off the scent about the Chiefs interest in Berry. I was one of them. I never thought drafting, arguably the best safety to come out of any NFL draft the last ten years, was worthy of the fifth overall pick. But since he was drafted, I changed my mind.

After speaking with numerous people in Tennessee about Berry, the only flaw I could find is that he loves to eat at . I’m not a fan of fried foods because I think they are bad for you overall health.

But if that’s the worst thing that he brings to the Chiefs, I can live with it.

Seriously, there are certainly issues with his game. But the biggest hurdle he has to overcome in Kansas City is really out of his control. If the front seven of the Chiefs plays as poorly as it did a year ago, Berry could be the second coming of Superman, and he won’t impact this defense.

However, because of his talent, Berry could overcome the shortcomings in front of him. He’s smart, studies game films and might be the most prepared college player in the last five years who has the chops to be an NFL ready play-making machine.

What he has that NO other college prospects has right now is an unwavering confidence that won’t change even if he makes a mistake on the field. In basketball terms, he’d be called a floor leader.

I don’t think Kansas City Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli would have taken Berry after he whiffed on Tyson Jackson last year. It seems this time that the Chiefs did their homework and Berry could have an impact on this defense that we’ve not seen around these parts since the late Derrick Thomas.

-King- · 05-07-2010, 12:23 PM

I don't thunk this was that bad of an article. I written it using the vast knowledge my insiders have gave me. I know tons about Tennessee's defense and Eric Berry at. I didn't understood why you guys didn't liked my articles so much. Its was well worth the $109. I have'st exposed Berrys flaw; fatty foods. Next week, I was write about Darren McLuster's fatal flaw: he skips the top holes when lacing his shoes!!!! Subscribe now! Only $109

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DJ's left nut · 05-07-2010, 12:51 PM

Where the !@#$ was the debate?

Better still, what exactly was the 'point' to which the 'counterpoint' was addressed?

That was garbage. All involved, including Claythan, should kill themselves.

brorth · 05-07-2010, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish

I also like to eat at .

Maybe it's some hip new slang for the Dotte? Maybe he means that he likes to eat at Wyandot BBQ?

brorth · 05-07-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

It's not spam. I don't work for WPI.

Do you understand that the world does not revolve around you and your do whatever it takes, ruin as many people's lives, so long as you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied along the way, just so long so you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied and dying along the way?

Coogs · 05-07-2010, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

There were plenty of people who were thorwn off the scent about the Chiefs interest in Berry.

Not here at the Planet. We were not "thorwn" off at all.

Hammock Parties · 05-07-2010, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That was garbage. All involved, including Claythan, should kill themselves.

I'm not involved. I'm innocent.

Ebolapox · 05-07-2010, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I'm not involved. I'm innocent.

then don't post the ignorant shit. it made a bit of sense when you were on the take, but you aren't any more. what's your ****ing excuse this time?

Pants · 05-07-2010, 04:34 PM

@ this thread. Holy shit.

**RealSNR** · 05-07-2010, 04:41 PM

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Fritz88 · 05-07-2010, 04:42 PM

English language was raped on that article.

DJ's left nut · 05-07-2010, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I'm not involved. I'm innocent.

You posted it.

I honestly forgot about the WPI connection -- you subjected us to this tripe and should be thrown into a burning AIDS tree.

**The Bad Guy** · 05-07-2010, 04:48 PM

Quite possibly the biggest piece of shit article ever written. Honestly, my 9 month old could scribble on a paper and it would make more sense.

If anyone clicks that link and gives that scumbag more hits I hope they get crabs.

**The Bad Guy** · 05-07-2010, 04:50 PM

Monte Kiffin calls Berry a surefire star in the NFL. Monte Kiffin's testicle hair knows more about the NFL than these 2 ****ing wastes of sperm.

WhitiE · 05-07-2010, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke

I read it a second time thinking my comprehension had been left at the nightstand this morning.

Now I feel like an idiot for having read that "article" twice.

wow that made me laugh....

Mr. Laz · 05-07-2010, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter

You're a glutton for punishment GoChiefs.

actually i believe Gochiefs is posting this to mock Athan since he doesn't work for him anymore.

05-07-2010, 10:27 AM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $3240478	Eric Berry debate article http://kan.scout.com/2/968525.html Over the next two weeks, we’ll dissect the impact of the Chiefs draft picks and the top un-drafted free agents the team signed that may or may not help the Chiefs win more games in 2010. First up Tennessee Safety Eric Berry. Josh Scotten (Point): When former Tennessee defensive coordinator, Monte Kiffin converted Berry to a more prototypical safety when he revamped the Volunteer defense, however Berry’s numbers dropped significantly after the conversion. Even with the help of one of the best front sevens in college football last season which included big Dan Williams, who was drafted 26th overall in last months draft, Berry’s numbers plummeted from a combined 12 int. his first two seasons to only two in his final frame as a Volunteer. With the Chiefs boasting one of the NFL’s most forgettable defensive lines a year ago, which often left its defensive backs on islands for longer stints than Gilligan and his crew, this could pose a significant problem for the much revered young safety. Although often referred to as one of the most athletic safeties to ever come out of college football, Berry’s athleticism could potentially be a hindrance to his success. With Berry’s ability to stuff the run, sometimes he bites too soon and that makes him susceptible to play action passes. You add to this a propensity to shoulder tackle instead of wrapping up oncoming ball carriers, he starts to resemble a few former Chiefs, Dexter McCleon and Bernard Pollard. New Chiefs Defensive Coordinator, Romeo Crennel may be able to solve what could be simple mental errors. But when you factor Berry’s flaws they could potentially thwart Berry’s overall success. The safety position requires raw instinct and unflappable reaction time. If he’s ever feels overloaded, that could result in sluggish play and another early first round blunder by the Kansas City Chiefs. Nicholas Athan (Counterpoint): There were plenty of people who were thorwn off the scent about the Chiefs interest in Berry. I was one of them. I never thought drafting, arguably the best safety to come out of any NFL draft the last ten years, was worthy of the fifth overall pick. But since he was drafted, I changed my mind. After speaking with numerous people in Tennessee about Berry, the only flaw I could find is that he loves to eat at . I’m not a fan of fried foods because I think they are bad for you overall health. But if that’s the worst thing that he brings to the Chiefs, I can live with it. Seriously, there are certainly issues with his game. But the biggest hurdle he has to overcome in Kansas City is really out of his control. If the front seven of the Chiefs plays as poorly as it did a year ago, Berry could be the second coming of Superman, and he won’t impact this defense. However, because of his talent, Berry could overcome the shortcomings in front of him. He’s smart, studies game films and might be the most prepared college player in the last five years who has the chops to be an NFL ready play-making machine. What he has that NO other college prospects has right now is an unwavering confidence that won’t change even if he makes a mistake on the field. In basketball terms, he’d be called a floor leader. I don’t think Kansas City Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli would have taken Berry after he whiffed on Tyson Jackson last year. It seems this time that the Chiefs did their homework and Berry could have an impact on this defense that we’ve not seen around these parts since the late Derrick Thomas.
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