Chiefs Bernard Pollard a predicted Pro Bowler!! - Page 3

Pooch · 07-23-2010, 03:19 PM

http://www.rotoworld/contenthttp://w...rt=NFL&id=3700

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-23-2010, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

It means everything when they all come in THREE QUARTERS of a PRESEASON game.

It illustrates perfectly why he got cut.

No, he didn't. He sucked balls in 2008 and was rated as one of the worst safeties in the entire league. He missed 13 tackles. Only one safety missed more that year.

In fairness, I'm betting he also had more opportunities for missed tackles than any other safety in the league because of our shitty front 7. He was either 3rd or 4th that year among safeties in tackles.

And FWIW, Guardian's right. He is ascending, and the website you linked shows that.

He went from 80th in 2008 to 16th in 2009.

And we gave up on him after two years as a starter because he thought Clancy Pendergast was a ****ing reerun.

Well, he was right, and we gave up on a player with potential.

Micjones · 07-23-2010, 06:08 PM

Pollard never would've become that player here.
I wish Chiefs fans would get over that transaction.
Sometimes being cut is what it takes for a player to come into his own.

Hammock Parties · 07-23-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

He went from 80th in 2008 to 16th in 2009.

He was 69th in 2007.

He was a shitty player when we cut him. He was not ascending.

ToxSocks · 07-23-2010, 06:09 PM

I was on the Pollard Bandwagon. I thought the guy had potential and got shit here that he didn't deserve. Granted, he shoulda been a lot better, but with Herm's coaching staff, who could blame him?

But comparing him to Adrian Wilson? C'mon now.....Its amazing how everytime a player leaves KC they blow up and become worth mentioning.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-23-2010, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

He was 69th in 2007.

He was a shitty player when we cut him. He was not ascending.

Dude.

He started for TWO years.

You can't expect a player to reach his peak in two years.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-23-2010, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Its amazing how everytime a player leaves KC they blow up and become worth mentioning.

Tells you something about the franchise.

We keep hiring shitty decision makers.

RedThat · 07-23-2010, 06:12 PM

Sometimes guys are better with a change of scenery I guess.

Micjones · 07-23-2010, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Dude.

He started for TWO years.

You can't expect a player to reach his peak in two years.

Two FULL seasons.
That's plenty of time to have made the kind of impression that warranted a long-term commitment.

I was never as down on Pollard as most Chiefs fans, but this idea that he would've blossomed here the way he did in Houston is uncertain at best.

That guy plays for a SIGNIFICANTLY better defense.
And he had EVERYTHING to prove after being cut.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-23-2010, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Two FULL seasons.
That's plenty of time to have made the kind of impression that warranted a long-term commitment.

I was never as down on Pollard as most Chiefs fans, but this idea that he would've blossomed here the way he did in Houston is uncertain at best.

That guy plays for a SIGNIFICANTLY better defense.
And he had EVERYTHING to prove after being cut.

I'll remember this when Tyson Jackson blows goats again this year.

Giving up on players after two years will guarantee this franchise extending their streak of non-playoff win seasons.

Chiefspants · 07-23-2010, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pooch

I had trouble posting the link but it also says that his 2009 release by the Chiefs further proves that Bill Belichick is the Patriots' matermind, and not the Kansas City Chief's GM Scott Pioli!!

Well, shit, the case is closed then.

Micjones · 07-23-2010, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'll remember this when Tyson Jackson blows goats again this year.

Giving up on players after two years will guarantee this franchise extending their streak of non-playoff win seasons.

Huh?

1. Tyson Jackson is a Defensive Lineman...they typically take longer to develop.
2. He was the 5th overall pick. Pollard? Try 54th.

ENTIRELY different situation.

Have you forgotten the fact that Pollard became disgruntled at being cursed at by a first year coach trying desperately to instill a particular mindset with his new team?

Can you see how that might've had a part in his being walked?

RedThat · 07-23-2010, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Tells you something about the franchise.

We keep hiring shitty decision makers.

I think part of the reason players fail to develop to their full potential in KC is because we always see an environment where there is constant change.

That in itself makes the world of a difference in my opinion.

There are a few players that provide examples of that.

We could say this for guys like Glenn Dorsey, Derrick Johnson, and even Pollard as well. The day KC drafted Dorsey, his role was clearly to play DT in a 4-3 cover 2 system, then once Pioli & co came in, that went out the window, now his job is to play DE in a 3-4. Which is not suitable to his strengths and talents as a player.

Derrick Johnson has played in what? 3 different systems?

Just the fact that there are constant adjustments, new coaches, new GM comes in, etc, therefore, as a result, new philosophy, new system and the players have to learn something new. And it takes a while to adapt. Some guys don't adapt because they either simply don't get it or aren't the right fit for it. But it could really hinder the progress of a player. We see this happen quite a bit in the NFL.

InChiefsHeaven · 07-23-2010, 06:29 PM

Who is this Bernard Pollard of which you speak?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-23-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Have you forgotten the fact that Pollard became disgruntled at being cursed at by a first year coach trying desperately to instill a particular mindset with his new team?

Can you see how that might've had a part in his being walked?

I've been arguing for a year that his confrontation with Pendergast was the only reason he was cut, so yeah.

But that's ****ing ridiculous. A franchise with this little talent can't afford to cut players with potential to make a statement.

I don't see Pioli in a hurry to jettison the QB who constantly argued with Haley on the sidelines and was caught yelling "**** you" in response to fans booing him.

It's a bad decision regardless of why it was made.

Micjones · 07-23-2010, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

But that's ****ing ridiculous. A franchise with this little talent can't afford to cut players with potential to make a statement.

So is getting upset because a football coach, at the highest level, cursed at you.

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I don't see Pioli in a hurry to jettison the QB who constantly argued with Haley on the sidelines and was caught yelling "**** you" in response to fans booing him.

Might have something to do with his being the leader of the football team?

Pollard being gone...is partly why we now have Eric Berry.
You'll excuse me if I don't join you in crying over spilled milk.

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