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Old 08-21-2010, 06:57 PM  
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1st half conniption fit....I mean commentary

Oh noes....we are tied 10-10....

Oh noes....our pre-season playcalling is for shit....

Oh noes....Charles didn't get enough carries.....

Oh noes...our front 7 sucks......



I thought we looked pretty good. Better than we did last week. Front 7 played good, we got burned on a missed tackle by a DB.....that isn't the front 7's fault
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:30 PM   #31
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Last week everyone cried that Cassel only threw 4 yard passes. First play of the game he throws for 11 or 12 and people are bitching that it wasn't 20. I am not sold on Cassel but I am not going to shit on a guy who had a good game either.
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:31 PM   #32
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Charlie Weis was brought in to throw down field
Well you can only do what your talen level allows you to do, for one.

Secondly we weren't in a position to have to throw deep a lot. Correct me if I am wrong but I don't remember NE airing it out down the field when Weis was there.
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:31 PM   #33
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Conservative but that is just how this offense is going to be. And that is fine with me as long as we move the ball. It eats time off the clock and keeps the legs of the defense fresh. Our running game looked good tonight. Say what you will that it was against Tampa but it looked good in the 1st half.
That's a big if, IMO.

When defenses don't have to worry about anything thrown more than 10 yards in the air, it makes their job much easier.

Add in the gameplanning of the regular season, and we could be in some trouble if we can't stretch the field a bit.

Hopefully we can just run the ball and not have to worry about Cassel and his lack of downfield accuracy.
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:32 PM   #34
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Well, shickingly we are in disagreement. They hardly carved us up in the 1st half. They had about 20 yards or so more than us passing in the 1st half and 50+ of their yards came on a missed tackle. So I don't know where you got all of these big gainers from? We outrushed them and held the ball longer than them and that was with a turnover.

And yes, Arenas did set up a short field. So what? That's what he is there to do. And we capitalized on it like we should have by putting 7 on the board. We set up a short field for them when Jones fumbled and we held them to 3.
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:32 PM   #35
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More dink and dunk, eh?
He dink and dunked his way to 125 yards, a TD, and no pics in one half of play.

Tom Brady had one season of 3800+ passing yards in his career prior to Randy Moss joining the team. He had no seasons of a 93 or higher QB rating prior to Randy Moss. He did, however, win three rings.

I'm not saying that Cassel is a star by any means, but people here would be sucking Brady's balls if he played the same game that Cassel just did. He's made a career out of playing that exact same game.
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:32 PM   #36
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Well you can only do what your talen level allows you to do, for one.

Secondly we weren't in a position to have to throw deep a lot. Correct me if I am wrong but I don't remember NE airing it out down the field when Weis was there.
It was a joke just tired of seeing the same tired argument even when the guy plays good these guys bitch like battered women. If you aren't going to be objective shut the **** up.
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:33 PM   #37
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More dink and dunk, eh?
I prefer Stink and Stunk
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:33 PM   #38
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If you have paid any attention you know I am not a Cassel fan. But JFC, Dane, he had a great game. I like a ball possession offense anyway. I would like to see us go deep more but ****, how you can complain about his performance tonight is beyond me?
GREAT?

How many passes were completed past 20 yards? 15 yards?

I don't think you have a ****ing clue as to what a "GREAT" QB performance should look like.
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:34 PM   #39
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Charlie Weis was brought in to throw down field
Since when is Weis capable of taking a three step drop?
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:35 PM   #40
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He dink and dunked his way to 125 yards, a TD, and no pics in one half of play.

Tom Brady had one season of 3800+ passing yards in his career prior to Randy Moss joining the team. He had no seasons of a 93 or higher QB rating prior to Randy Moss. He did, however, win three rings.

I'm not saying that Cassel is a star by any means, but people here would be sucking Brady's balls if he played the same game that Cassel just did. He's made a career out of playing that exact same game.
See two posts above yours.

If you're naive enough to think that this will work for 16 games in the regular season, be my guest.

And if you've lowered you're expectations so much that 10 points in 2 quarters against a piss-poor defense is a good showing, so be it.

I'll watch on Monday/Tuesday and come to my own conclusions, but it sounds like much of the same, only against a lessor opponent.
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:36 PM   #41
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That's a big if, IMO.

When defenses don't have to worry about anything thrown more than 10 yards in the air, it makes their job much easier.

Add in the gameplanning of the regular season, and we could be in some trouble if we can't stretch the field a bit.

Hopefully we can just run the ball and not have to worry about Cassel and his lack of downfield accuracy.
Big if? Hardly. Did you not pay attention last year? Once Charles took over the offense improved immensely because it opened things up for the passing game. We are not going to be an air-Manning team. Cassel is not that kind of QB. I think people are just getting bent for no reason right now.
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Since when is Weis capable of taking a three step drop?
It was a joke.


I see what you did there.
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Since when is Weis capable of taking a three step drop?
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GREAT?

How many passes were completed past 20 yards? 15 yards?

I don't think you have a ****ing clue as to what a "GREAT" QB performance should look like.
Dane, I don't give a **** if we threw 25-4 yd passes if it results in a score. 14-19 for 125 and a TD is a great line any QB would take and any coach would accept.
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See two posts above yours.

If you're naive enough to think that this will work for 16 games in the regular season, be my guest.

And if you've lowered you're expectations so much that 10 points in 2 quarters against a piss-poor defense is a good showing, so be it.

I'll watch on Monday/Tuesday and come to my own conclusions, but it sounds like much of the same, only against a lessor opponent.
That's what I saw, albeit on a shitty internet broadcast.

Cassel has shown NO ability, IMO, to even be an average QB. Take a look at the Seattle-Green Bay game that's on right now. Charlie Whitehurst is a leader, knows how to improvise and is obviously a player (for $4 million a year, no less).

Cassel is Grbac part 2 with Gannon's arm strength.

And the defense looks as bad as advertised. When second year QB and a 4th round rookie WR consistently carve up your first team defense, you've got problems.
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