Should the Chiefs have drafted Sedrick Ellis over Dorsey?

[Deberg_1990]

Just comparing the stats......seems as though Ellis has been more a force so far than Dorsey.....thoughts?


Ellis:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/...rBrFaf8t7.uLYF


Dorsey:


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/...rBrFaf8t7.uLYF

[Jerm]

I've always been curious as to what the Chiefs would've done had Ryan been there at #5.

Of course the consensus would've been take him but I just wonder how high up on their board he was.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo

No.

Anyone that says yes is a ****ing revisionist history one who sucks the penis and deserves to have their balls pulled through their asshole.

Dorsey was THE OBVIOUS PICK.

DJ was THE OBVIOUS PICK.

Berry was THE OBVIOUS PICK.

I know it's fun to play what if and be arm-chair GM's; but this isn't the case to dispute.

RODGERS was the obvious pick.

Al and Dick didn't want to hurt Green's feelings.

Don't you remember Trent Green almost crying on ESPN when ****ing Brodie Croyle was chosen in 2006?

And FTR, I was no fan of the Dorsey selection because he was coming off an injury that had many people at odds as to whether or not he'd become an productive NFL player.

[Jilly]

It might have been said, but he'd be a more obvious choice for a 3-4, right? But, draft best player, not for slots.....so Dorsey was the better move.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh

That is the thing I hated the most about the peterson era.He did that all the time.

Tyson Jackson, Colin Brown, or Jake O'Connell ring a bell?

[Jerm]

The Rodgers non selection was an absolute sham...we somehow lucked into him falling to us and then pass on him.

= Me when that happened

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Jerm

I've always been curious as to what the Chiefs would've done had Ryan been there at #5.

Of course the consensus would've been take him but I just wonder how high up on their board he was.

I doubt they'd have taken him, they were still selling the Brodie Croyle bullshit then. Hell a lot of this forum ate it up and said we couldn't take Ryan, I remember those debates.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I doubt they'd have taken him, they were still selling the Brodie Croyle bullshit then. Hell a lot of this forum ate it up and said we couldn't take Ryan, I remember those debates.

I tend to agree. I could very easily see them auctioning that pick off and trading back in that scenario.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

RODGERS was the obvious pick.

Al and Dick didn't want to hurt Green's feelings.

Don't you remember Trent Green almost crying on ESPN when ****ing Brodie Croyle was chosen in 2006?

And FTR, I was no fan of the Dorsey selection because he was coming off an injury that had many people at odds as to whether or not he'd become an productive NFL player.

Yeah I remember Dorsey in college. Dude was a warrior. He used to play through pain and do it at a high level too. It was amazing watching him at work.

He got a bit of flack because of injuries. The injuries I thought were a bit overlooked, and many of the so-called experts felt he would overcome the injuries or play through them because thats the type of character he was. But yeah no doubt he was the consensus pick at the time since he was the most polished DT coming out.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by RedThat

He got a bit of flack because of injuries. The injuries I thought were a bit overlooked, and many of the so-called experts felt he would overcome the injuries or play through them because thats the type of character he was. But yeah no doubt he was the consensus pick at the time since he was the most polished DT coming out.

Perfect example of need over BPA

[chiefscafan]

Ok I looked into this if we had made the trade and gotten Ellis. 7th round we could have taken the bell kid from buffalo for RT in the 7th.

In 2009 we could have taken Cushing giving us

Jackson. Ellis. Gillberry
Hali vrabel. Johnson. Cushing
flowers. Carr
Lewis
Berry

draft picks

2008

Ellis and Albert flowers carr etc

2009

Jackson and Cushing etc

2010

berry Lewis arenas mccluster etc

I guess it would have been better to pull that deal but I still like Dorsey.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Yeah Dorsey was pretty much the BPA on anybodys draft board, so no, it wasnt a bad pick a the time.

Jackson on the other hand...

[Marcellus]

Dorsey was considered to not only the best defensive player in the draft but possibly the #1 player overall in the draft so taking him at 5 was not close to being a stretch.

[B_Ambuehl]

We were also offered an '08 2nd round pick and another '09 first rounder that year in a trade with Carolina for our 17. They traded up to get Otah.

And there's no debating that one. Carolinas GM has an interview online somewhere where he spelled out the details of the offer. They called the Chiefs and a couple of other teams and we turned it down before philly finally accepted.

So we potentially could've had the #10 pick in '08 with an extra 2nd in '08 and 2 extra firsts in '09. We probably woulda taken a tackle at #10 along with Flowers and someone else in round 2.

That '09 draft coulda been something special with 3 first round picks. Instead we're left with Tyson jackson and Matt Cassell.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

At some point, you've gotta stand pat and take a player. Glenn Dorsey was a once-in-a-decade prospect. He was roundly viewed as the best DT since Sapp to enter the draft.

You don't trade out of that spot. Also, if you have a guy who looks like a franchise LT staring you in the face in the middle of the first round, you take him if you're a rebuilding team.

Do you think Bill Parcells is happy he traded down so he could pass up Steven Jackson and take Julius Jones?

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

At some point, you've gotta stand pat and take a player. Glenn Dorsey was a once-in-a-decade prospect. He was roundly viewed as the best DT since Sapp to enter the draft.

You don't trade out of that spot. Also, if you have a guy who looks like a franchise LT staring you in the face in the middle of the first round, you take him if you're a rebuilding team.

Do you think Bill Parcells is happy he traded down so he could pass up Steven Jackson and take Julius Jones?

Yea i agree....sometimes all the trading down doesnt make alot of sense. All you end up with is alot of marginal talent guys who can play, but you give up high impact guys.