Chiefs Lack Of Record Breaking Offense And 16-0 Team Around Him Hurting Cassel And Chiefs - Page 3

**BossChief** · 11-09-2010, 03:55 PM

I had to go there.

milkman · 11-09-2010, 09:40 PM

Thanks for your dumbassery Brianfo.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-09-2010, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Heres where we differ a bit, I guess.

Cassel pumps that receiver and gets Ricky Brown (#57) to jump as little as one false step while using his mobility to buy some time and Bowe (I am guessing that is Bowe coming across) is gone for the touchdown right behind him. You pump fake and step up into the pocket to avoid the pressure and buy a little time and find the open man, simple as that.

All 11 defenders are accounted for in that frame, nobody is in position to tackle Bowe if he catches that ball, its a game winning clutch TD pass.

You don't just throw to the guy that has no chance of making the first down, just because.

Cassel had two options out of 5 that would have gotten the first down.

It is inexcusable to make the throw that he did if he is to be even considered the type of guy we NEED in that situation if we are to have a chance at winning playoff games.

One thing you have to consider is that you have a defender on Cassel's right that's sealing that outside right. But you'll also see on the left that there's a LB that's starting pursuit into the pocket and there isn't anyone who will be able to block him. If Cassel pump fakes, turns in a different direction, or waits even 1 more second, I believe he is going to get hit. And I don't agree with milkman that he can tuck it in and run. There is nowhere for him to go.

I don't think it's a bad decision to throw to Pope, especially given that the alternatives aren't better. Wimbley is a LB and he's in recovery mode. He actually makes a great play on the ball, but he had his back turned to the QB--that's a play a LB usually isn't going to make. Frankly, I think a lot of that is on Pope. He doesn't have balance when he's catching it--he shouldn't let Wimbley take that ball away from him. More importantly, look at Wimbley's positioning. Pope has GOT TO come to the ball. He cuts in front of Wimbley and he has a huge running lane to the left to get those 2 extra yards. Or, he draws a penalty--with Wimbley not once looking back at the QB, that's definitely in play.

I know Pope isn't a natural receiver. But I believe that's a more than makeable play if he plays it right.

Brianfo · 11-09-2010, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool han Luke

I expect us to go at least 10 & 6 despite Cassel. Cassel isn't the one making us a better team. It's the team around him that are doing the job. Cassel isn't going to win us a Super Bowl because we need production from the QB. Unless your wanting Rex Grossman esq QB play?

You expected10-6 this year. Good luck in purgatory. You r a douche!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**cdcox** · 11-09-2010, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

This has been covered. Bowe was being spied on by the MLB, so that option isn't open. The only guy who appears to be opening up is Charles. But Cassel's already had the ball for 3-4 seconds. I don't think anyone would advocate him turning his body all the way over to the left side to get the ball to him.

I don't think this was a good playcall for one. But this play appears to be on the receivers.

Something doesn't add up. If he's had the ball 3-4 seconds, how are all the receivers within 5 yards of the LOS?

FAX · 11-09-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

One thing you have to consider is that you have a defender on Cassel's right that's sealing that outside right. But you'll also see on the left that there's a LB that's starting pursuit into the pocket and there isn't anyone who will be able to block him. If Cassel pump fakes, turns in a different direction, or waits even 1 more second, I believe he is going to get hit. And I don't agree with milkman that he can tuck it in and run. There is nowhere for him to go.

I don't think it's a bad decision to throw to Pope, especially given that the alternatives aren't better. Wimbley is a LB and he's in recovery mode. He actually makes a great play on the ball, but he had his back turned to the QB--that's a play a LB usually isn't going to make. Frankly, I think a lot of that is on Pope. He doesn't have balance when he's catching it--he shouldn't let Wimbley take that ball away from him. More importantly, look at Wimbley's positioning. Pope has GOT TO come to the ball. He cuts in front of Wimbley and he has a huge running lane to the left to get those 2 extra yards. Or, he draws a penalty--with Wimbley not once looking back at the QB, that's definitely in play.

I know Pope isn't a natural receiver. But I believe that's a more than makeable play if he plays it right.

Or, he could just throw the ball to Bowe.

FAX

FAX · 11-09-2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Something doesn't add up. If he's had the ball 3-4 seconds, how are all the receivers within 5 yards of the LOS?

Yeah ... I was wondering the same thing ... maybe 2 seconds ... certainly not 4.

Based on that still frame, I'm kinda wondering why he can't loft the ball over the linebacker, lead Bowe a tad, and just get a touchdown?

FAX

FAX · 11-09-2010, 09:49 PM

Or that guy standing on the 2.

FAX

**BossChief** · 11-09-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't think it's a bad decision to throw to Pope,

you are better than this.

Quit being an apologist. That post was dumb...very dumb IMO.

If he ****ing steps up two steps, he has another 2 seconds to find the open man. Simple as that.

Quit being ok with below average, crappy decisions.

We deserve better

Brianfo · 11-09-2010, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Thanks for your dumbassery Brianfo.

Oh really!! How does my cock taste??????

chiefzilla1501 · 11-09-2010, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Or, he could just throw the ball to Bowe.

FAX

Who is being spied by the MLB. The MLB drifts away from Bowe because Cassel isn't looking at him. Bowe isn't open on this play.

**BossChief** · 11-09-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Or, he could just throw the ball to Bowe.

FAX

exactly

be a ****ing world beating muther****er and step up to the pocket (using your blockers) and use the mechanics Weis is trying to teach you to deliver a pass to Bowe for a touchdown and enjoy the glory.

...or throw it to Pope for no gain, at best, and get called the village idiot.

**BossChief** · 11-09-2010, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Who is being spied by the MLB. The MLB drifts away from Bowe because Cassel isn't looking at him. Bowe isn't open on this play.

he has a step on his man and a most NFL quarterbacks should be able to make that throw.

If this was a playoff game, he MUST make that play for us to have a chance.

**Bugeater** · 11-09-2010, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

So you were going to wait 8 games to pass judgment on Cassel. It has been 8 games, what do you deem him to be, oh great Pawntard?

I couldn't help but notice that he ducked this question.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-09-2010, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

he has a step on his man and a most NFL quarterbacks should be able to make that throw.

If this was a playoff game, he MUST make that play for us to have a chance.

#1 - He has a step because the MLB is spying the QB. If Cassel turns to Bowe, the MLB turns and the window closes

#2 - There is a Safety deep. Given that Bowe is the only guy going deep, I can guaran-****ing-tee you that he's ready to attack that ball.

#3 - I think this was very possibly a designed play. Albert tries to cut his blocker down, which pretty clearly tells you that his only job is to stop his blocker just enough for Cassel to get a quick release.

#4 - This is a more than makeable play by Pope if he uses his body correctly, given the way Wimbley is positioned to defend it.

I'm not being an apologist. I think people are trying really hard to convince themselves that Bowe was a lot more open than he was. I do think Cassel may have some space to step up. But again, that guy Albert pushed forward, that guy is now starting to move into the backfield. If Cassel moves anywhere in that pocket, that guy is going to get into the pocket and nobody is there to block him.

Psyko Tek · 11-09-2010, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Cool another one of these threads.

I hope these threads are still happening in 2-3 years so that we can still very easily tell who the ****ing idiots are around here.

IF it takes 2-3 years.....

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