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Old 11-11-2010, 07:41 PM  
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Let's face facts: we're going to have to bonus-up on Matt Cassel.
There's been a few conversations this season that keep asking the question "if we don't drop Cassel to get out of the bonus he's due..."

I mean, just stop. Cassel will survive the offseason and will likely be our starter next year.

Even if Pioli and Haley understood what we all know to be true, which is that Cassel is not that answer and is not a franchise QB, than acquiring one is damn near impossible.

Who would be available this offseason? A few stopgaps, none of them franchise guys. (A thread will no doubt be started about McNabb, but he's not a Pioli guy.) And we'll be too busy looking for a backup QB anyway when we let Croyle go -- and we don't even have a third stringer to fall back on.

The #1 opportunity we have at a franchise QB is to reach for a second-round quality guy with high character with our mid-to-late pick in the first round to ensure we don't get leapfrogged.

Christian Ponder (Florida State)
Nick Foles (Arizona)
Nathan Enderle (Idaho)

Somebody like that is the only chance this team has at a young, franchise guy, and that is the only way we are acquiring him.

And there's the catch -- even if we acquire a guy like that, we still need Cassel because rookie QBs almost never start from the first game. Cassel can be a valuable backup, and a stopgap while the rookie takes his time to get the system down. Cassel, in the mean time, will never be a drag in the locker room, so Haley and Pioli will hang on to him for the versatility he provides to their QB decisions.

Even if the stud does start right away, and Cassel really does get the shaft from Day One of the 2011 season, he is a guy who will always do what he's asked and will do it the best he can, which the staff obviously values above all else. And as fans, we should value that as well.

Like or dislike Cassel, he's got an arrowhead on the side of his helmet for a few more years. In what capacity, we don't know.
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:33 PM   #31
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He isn't any better than Cassel
nice of you to troll on through btw
Good luck with that one, buddy.

Kolb is miles better than Cassel.
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:37 PM   #32
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:39 PM   #33
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When Weis was brought in to "fix the quarterback" you can't assume that Cassel's job is safe. The Patriots don't even show loyalty to good players, let alone a QB that is holding the team back. They may keep him, but only under a renegotiated contract.
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:40 PM   #34
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I just think Kolb is pretty much the exact same guy as Matt Cassel
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:41 PM   #35
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If they aren't paying him his bonus, we've got no QB.

And we're dealing with rookies (the bad kinds) and stopgaps (the worst kinds) for the next 4 years.

Cassel at least gives us versatility when we make our decisions at QB for the future. He allows us to take risks and gambles in our search for a true franchise QB.
I fail to see why this would be any worse then continuing to play and pay big money for a QB who has done nothing but prove he isn't going to be a franchise QB..

I'm not saying I love the idea of a rookie starting or a stopgap coming in, but Cassel is not who I want to see playing for the next 4 years. At this point I actually cringe at the thought of him starting this week in a big divisional game against Denver.
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:42 PM   #36
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I just think Kolb is pretty much the exact same guy as Matt Cassel
Dan Kolb, relatively recent Braves closer? Sure, i agree.




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Old 11-11-2010, 09:43 PM   #37
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Ok saying Kolb is awful is a little much.
I thought that he was damn good before this season. Fact is he has looked pretty bad.

You were big on him so I know it's impossible for you to change your stance.
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:45 PM   #38
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I thought that he was damn good before this season. Fact is he has looked pretty bad.

You were big on him so I know it's impossible for you to change your stance.
He wasn't good in a half against Green Bay, in the game Vick got hurt in he kept throwing dumpoffs...he played well in his starts after that.
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When Weis was brought in to "fix the quarterback" you can't assume that Cassel's job is safe. The Patriots don't even show loyalty to good players, let alone a QB that is holding the team back. They may keep him, but only under a renegotiated contract.
If I'm seeing the future correctly, this seems about right.

I keep reminding myself that Haley is an offensively-minded person. I imagine that his stomach churns every time a pass play is called. Also, he probably figures that, unless we get a quarterback, Weis will start packing.

Regardless of the public face they put on, these are smart guys and they see the problems.

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Old 11-11-2010, 09:46 PM   #40
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when I ponder cassel being here until 2014...it makes me a sad panda.
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:49 PM   #41
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when I ponder cassel being here until 2014...it makes me sad, patna.
Th^t's how i read that. LOLOLOL
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:52 PM   #42
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What would be the opinion of the planet if Romo came available? Just curious. I think he is going to.
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What would be the opinion of the planet if Romo came available? Just curious. I think he is going to.
Better, but not CRAZY excited.
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He wasn't good in a half against Green Bay, in the game Vick got hurt in he kept throwing dumpoffs...he played well in his starts after that.
I went back and looked at his game breakdowns. 3 turds and 2 good games.

It appears when he is good he is good and when he is bad he is real bad.

He was God awful against GB and Tennessee.
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:55 PM   #45
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this is exactly the remainder of Cassels contract

Take out that bonus and its quite affordable, even if we draft someone.
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