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Old 11-12-2010, 11:22 PM  
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My son broke his foot last month playing football. We just started seeing some of the bills for this. One of them in particular was the bill for the orthopedic surgeon who DID NOT perform a surgery. This bill lists $58.75 for the office visit and $1695 for a surgery that was never done. They never invaded his skin. Not even for shot. All he did was look at his foot take an xray and put a walking boot on. WTF!!!???
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Old 11-13-2010, 05:37 AM   #31
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Old 11-13-2010, 06:04 AM   #32
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Old 11-13-2010, 06:36 AM   #33
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Old 11-13-2010, 07:05 AM   #34
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Old 11-13-2010, 07:47 AM   #35
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Old 11-13-2010, 07:53 AM   #36
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Na, just hurt him real bad. He will then get raped by a doctor similar to himself.


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Old 11-13-2010, 08:12 AM   #37
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But those people never pay anyways, their the ones reaping the rewards for nothing.
Dane and Deberg are correct in so many ways. I work in the healthcare field and that is exactly what happens. Joe taxpayer picks up the bill for all the uninsured or illegals that do not pay their bills at the hospital. That is why everything is so damn expensive.
Since you have insurance (and most of the working Americans do) partially your insurance and then your out of pocket pays for their services. The system has so many issues. Reform needs to be done on so many levels, but I am not a fan at all of this OBamacare. A lot of these people are getting their medical services already for free, thus someone ends up screwed paying the bill.
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Old 11-13-2010, 09:17 AM   #38
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Old 11-13-2010, 09:52 AM   #39
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ObamaCare essentially make the working man who has insurance pay twice for the uninsured broke-dick's - once for his premium and again when he stiffs the system after being cared for. Used to be just for his care, now it's for a premium too.

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Old 11-13-2010, 10:07 AM   #40
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Old 11-13-2010, 10:21 AM   #41
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Not sure what to say, but donkey punching the Doctor might make you feel better for a while.. Then, when he wakes up, show him a video of you with his wife PIIHB. Not sure about you, but that always helps to make me feel better...
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Old 11-13-2010, 10:36 AM   #42
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Nope.

The reason for outrageous ER visits and doctor care in general is primarily due to two things: The uninsured and malpractice insurance.

Our society has become so litigious that if you have a malpractice insurance in Haiti but treat someone in Peru, your malpractice insurance will cover you in the event of being sued.

But the United States is the only country in the world that does not recognize malpractice insurance from any other sovereign nation. If you practice medicine in any capacity in America, you must have American malpractice insurance.

Furthermore, the reason why an Advil is $200 dollars (or whatever) in an ER is to cover the cost of all of the uninsured people. Doctors have to treat patients by law, regardless of insurance coverage (or the lack thereof). Because millions are uninsured and will never pay for their ER visits (and more), the burden is pushed to the insured.

It's a ****ed up system and most people hardly know how it works.

ya, I admit that I don't know all that much about how it works. All I know is that it's pretty messed up what they do to honest people. I'm insured and I haven't had anything major but if I do, I imagine I'll go bankrupt.
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Old 11-13-2010, 10:52 AM   #43
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ya, I admit that I don't know all that much about how it works. All I know is that it's pretty messed up what they do to honest people. I'm insured and I haven't had anything major but if I do, I imagine I'll go bankrupt.
It really does work both ways, though. My Dad's a doctor and an honest one. Dane's right that two of the major drains on the health care system are malpractice insurance and illegals getting "free" care. That and a health insurance system that I feel like is bordering on fraud. My Dad has gotten checks for pennies on the dollar. Literally. Because insurance payments are so inconsistent, it's really hard to set prices.

I mean, not to say that there aren't crooked doctors out there. But I think it's unfair to badmouth doctors when it's really the ****ed up system that is driving most of the problems in the industry. And yes, I think Obamacare is a ridiculously stupid way to "fix" the system.
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Old 11-13-2010, 11:07 AM   #44
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Dude, this is why there needs to be serious health care reform in this country.

No offense to you whatsoever, but most Americans that have insurance don't think there's a problem with the system until they actually need to use their insurance for a surgery or unfortunately, an ER visit.

Just think about the 30 million plus that are uninsured.
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I have said this from the day they started the health care reform bs. They reform insurance (I will leave that alone) but the problem is at the expense end of things. The problem is not people without insurance, it is with (using the example above) paying $160 for an x-ray. This is 100 year old technology, can anyone give me a good reason why it should cost this much for a simple and common procedure? In all truth, insurance is part of the problem because people usually do not see how horrible inflated the prices are since they do not pay them directly.

Reform medical care and pricing if you want to actually see a difference.
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Old 11-13-2010, 11:14 AM   #45
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It's flawed but the next stage is ****ing disastrous.


You'll bend to their sodomy either way. In fines (and get nothing in return) or belch up much higher premiums and receive less coverage...
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