It all came down to defense...or lack thereof

[petegz28]

Plain and simple, the defense choked this game. Was not having McGraw THAT big of an issue? Perhaps it was. No pressure all game long. Didn't do shit to stop the run.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The defense gave up a lot of points early, but it's the QB's job to reset the tempo. For as bad as the defense played, I think Cassel's fumble in the first half sealed the deal. While I thought he played okay in Oakland what you saw today is that Cassel is garbage when he isn't running a play with predetermined reads.

And that's not good. There will be games when you are forced to open up your offense and the QB has to have the flexibility to adapt with the game.

you are a seriously stupid mofo

[philfree]

After time to reflect we looked really tired and sluggish. We had just played two OT games in a row and we were also on the 2nd road game in a row. Denver was freash off the bye and they were ready.

It was a recipe for diaster.

Bouncing back at home is critical.


PhilFree

[DaneMcCloud]

Matt Cassel was not the reason the Chiefs lost.

Romeo Crennel was not the reason the Chiefs lost.

The Chiefs lost because they don't have a true NT, they don't have two pass rushing OLB's and they're thin on the defensive line and secondary.

Denver is the #1 passing team in the NFL and the Chiefs didn't match up well. Furthermore, this team has major holes in personnel that have been covered up by the lack of competition.

It's not going to get any easier from here on out.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by philfree

After time to reflect we looked really tired and sluggish.

That's because defensively, the Chiefs are old in key defensive spots: OLB (Vrabel) and NT (Edwards).

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Laz

you are a seriously stupid mofo

Huh?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Matt Cassel was not the reason the Chiefs lost.

Romeo Crennel was not the reason the Chiefs lost.

The Chiefs lost because they don't have a true NT, they don't have two pass rushing OLB's and they're thin on the defensive line and secondary.

Denver is the #1 passing team in the NFL and the Chiefs didn't match up well. Furthermore, this team has major holes in personnel that have been covered up by the lack of competition.

It's not going to get any easier from here on out.

Agreed. In case anyone else hasn't figured it out; there are NO gimmies for this half-team. And that's about what we've got; one HALF of a team.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Matt Cassel was not the reason the Chiefs lost.

Romeo Crennel was not the reason the Chiefs lost.

The Chiefs lost because they don't have a true NT, they don't have two pass rushing OLB's and they're thin on the defensive line and secondary.

Denver is the #1 passing team in the NFL and the Chiefs didn't match up well. Furthermore, this team has major holes in personnel that have been covered up by the lack of competition.

It's not going to get any easier from here on out.

Romeo Crennel has done a great job of hiding our defiencies on defense with scheme, but the lack of talent at NT and a second pass rusher, along with a lack of depth was exposed in this game.

The guys on the front, Smith and Dorsey, played like guys that are playing too many snaps.

Their bodies are worn.

Ron Edwards is a victim of this, as well.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Chief Henry

Matt Cassel showed absolutley NO leadership in Denver. His team needed him to make plays and he kept missing open receivers down field and he threw to the wrong receiver at least 6-8 times. Cassel needed to set the tone offensivley - he laid an egg. All of those passing yards mean shit. Cassel needed to rally his team and he flopped.

Yes, this.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Huh?

He isn't smart enough to make any kind of argument to refute the point you made, so he just called you stupid, because that's all he has.

I would have told you that the deal was already sealed at 28-0, so Cassel's fumble was just adding insult to injury.

I would have pointed out the same thing that others have pointed out, that Cassel completed a 3rd pass that would have been a first down conversion had Charles not been called for not being set, and that might have been a play that could have helped stemmed the tide before things got out of hand.

I do that out of fairness to Cassel.

Cassel isn't responsible for this loss.

However, he isn't a QB that can overcome mistakes, and that is why he isn't a QB that we can hope to move forward with.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501
The defense gave up a lot of points early, but it's the QB's job to reset the tempo. For as bad as the defense played, I think Cassel's fumble in the first half sealed the deal. While I thought he played okay in Oakland what you saw today is that Cassel is garbage when he isn't running a play with predetermined reads.

And that's not good. There will be games when you are forced to open up your offense and the QB has to have the flexibility to adapt with the game.

[Chiefnj2]

Other than Manning, there aren't many QB's capable of carrying a team back from a 28 point deficit. That's even assuming the D wakes up and can shut out the opposition from that point forward.

[Rausch]

I don't care who played QB there was absolutely no excuse to give up this many pts TO ****ING ANY NFL TEAM.

NONE.

We did not puke up pts to the Colts, Texans, or allow a game to get out of hand to any team (more talented or not) all season long.

The worst team in our division just punked us out and ran up the score in a must-win game.

Sorry, but that loss was a ****ing direct result of not being prepared on all fronts. Offense, defense, and HC sucked balls. Completely unprepared for a team that was as one dimensional as we were and THEY dominated.

Our players did not suddenly decide to suck. Our DC and his "bend but don't break" got bent over,split down the middle, and then filed charges for sexual assault. As soon as the game went south it seems like everyone ran around in the booth like fretting Nancy's with their arms in the air.

Our offense is flat out not capable of a shootout. If you'd told me we scored 30 pts on Denver I'd bet my ass that was a win.

We were not prepared, well coached, or up for this game...

[Garcia Bronco]

It didn't come down to just defense. It came down to the trenches. To my surprise we got push on your o-line and your d-line until the game was out of reach for you. It wasn't your QB or your CB's or your RB's...it was that you didn't win the LOS consistently on either side of the ball. That says something because we don't push anybody around consistently. You guys just had a bad game.

[HemiEd]

Yeah, this team has had problems since Smith had to quit grabbing junk.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by mikey23545

It was obviously Cassel who caused the D to play like it did.

this

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by PGM

Please. You aren't going to win in the NFL giving up 4 TD's on 4 possessions to open things up. Period.

You also aren't going to win many games when your offense goes 3 and out on their first umpteen possessions. How many teams has the defense bailed our offense out when they haven't performed well?

The defense is responsible for this loss. But you can't go down by 14 points and then go 3 and out. And while the Chiefs were down 21 points, I believe that if you score a TD on that drive turning the game to 21-7, the defense walks onto the field with a different mentality that "hey, maybe if we hold these guys, our offense can bring us back to within a TD." Instead, he took a sack that took them out of field goal range. The possession after that, he fumbles the ball in scoring range. Cassel was brutally bad in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th possessions of the game. You can't just throw your hands up and give up when you're down a few scores. We'll never win a playoff game with that mentality.