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Old 01-27-2011, 12:48 PM   #1
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Doesn't sound like all that stuff is modded systems. Sure, some of it appears to be - but the gamescore offline thing is pretty benign and can be done on accident.

Ultimately there seems to be a hell of a lot of trapdoors placed throughout XBOX Live that I don't feel inclined to deal with. PSIII has always had a far more user friendly online interface anyway.

This just kinda puts that fact in print.

I'd venture to guess that if you looked up Xbox 360's TOS & PS3's TOS you'd find that they are similarly worded and protect against the same things. I'd also guess that PS3 has a similar forum dedicated to people that have been banned from the network, or gamertags banned, etc.

I'm not saying Xbox Live/Microsoft are 100% correct all the time, but I'd venture they are more correct than wrong. But I can tell you that when all the MW2 hacks were out, them banning those dipshits didn't fix the entire problem, but it made a difference.

I like my 360. But I'd have no problems owning a PS3 as well. There are some games that I'd love to play on the system, but I just don't have the money to get one....which I'm sure I will at one point.
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Old 01-27-2011, 12:52 PM   #2
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Count me as highly skeptical of anyone who claims that they were incorrectly labelled a cheater. I'm sure mistakes could be possible, but they really do try to make sure you cheated before resetting, because someone who is wronged would obviously flip the hell out and go to another console.
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Old 01-27-2011, 12:59 PM   #3
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Doesn't sound like all that stuff is modded systems. Sure, some of it appears to be - but the gamescore offline thing is pretty benign and can be done on accident.

Ultimately there seems to be a hell of a lot of trapdoors placed throughout XBOX Live that I don't feel inclined to deal with. PSIII has always had a far more user friendly online interface anyway.

This just kinda puts that fact in print.
How the hell would you get online-only achievements when you're not logged in? Yeah, I'm going with Microsoft on this one. Cheaters absolutely need to be banned, and they're right to do so.
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Old 01-27-2011, 01:46 PM   #4
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How the hell would you get online-only achievements when you're not logged in?
That's what I want to know. Can anyone put in plain English an example of this? The vagueness here and in those X-box forum posts is driving me nuts. I believe these people are probably cheating, I just want one concrete example of how they're doing it.
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Old 01-27-2011, 01:39 PM   #5
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Doesn't sound like all that stuff is modded systems. Sure, some of it appears to be - but the gamescore offline thing is pretty benign and can be done on accident.

Ultimately there seems to be a hell of a lot of trapdoors placed throughout XBOX Live that I don't feel inclined to deal with. PSIII has always had a far more user friendly online interface anyway.

This just kinda puts that fact in print.
Whoaaaa. In terms of online service xbox kills the ps3

And you can't earn online only achievements offline on "accident"
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Old 01-27-2011, 12:21 PM   #6
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Old 01-27-2011, 12:24 PM   #7
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Tiny Evil, get on this!

Send that kid a PS3 or something.
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Old 01-27-2011, 02:51 PM   #8
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Tiny Evil, get on this!

Send that kid a PS3 or something.
This would actually be a brilliant move.
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Old 01-27-2011, 12:43 PM   #9
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M$ normally investigates these things pretty thoroughly and they make sure they are right if they reset a gamerscore.

I'm going to side with Xbox on this one, the kid probably cheated.
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Old 01-27-2011, 12:57 PM   #10
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Ok thanks for helping me understand. I didn't realize achievements were being tabulated by the box itself, and not online.

It seems there should be a way to design the system so stuff like this just isn't possible. Rather than have a team of people running around looking for cheaters and generating ill will.
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Ok thanks for helping me understand. I didn't realize achievements were being tabulated by the box itself, and not online.

It seems there should be a way to design the system so stuff like this just isn't possible. Rather than have a team of people running around looking for cheaters and generating ill will.
It will happen no matter what they do to the xbox. Its like Apple. Each version update they come out with, they try to stop jailbreaking, and no matter what, every version is jailbroken within a few days.
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Old 01-27-2011, 03:50 PM   #13
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So you design the system so that the device never keeps track of achievements, only the online site. Then you'd have to hack into Microsoft to cheat, which is a much tougher proposition.
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Old 01-27-2011, 04:02 PM   #14
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So you design the system so that the device never keeps track of achievements, only the online site. Then you'd have to hack into Microsoft to cheat, which is a much tougher proposition.
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So you design the system so that the device never keeps track of achievements, only the online site. Then you'd have to hack into Microsoft to cheat, which is a much tougher proposition.
It would still be easier to hack the console.. you can never stop the cheating for long as they cheaters generally are smarter. Well theones coming up with it, not the users.
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