Football And The Draftabulators Take One Up The Rectum - Page 3

BigCatDaddy · 02-05-2011, 08:52 AM

DALLAS -- Top draft choice, top rookie.

St. Louis Rams quarterback Sam Bradford won The Associated Press 2010 NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year award on Friday.

The first overall selection in last year's draft, Bradford guided the Rams from the embarrassment of a 1-15 record to a 7-9 mark. In the weak NFC West, that was good enough to contend for the division title; St. Louis lost out on a tiebreaker to Seattle.

"I think the more I'm out there, the more comfortable I become," Bradford said. "It's been like that all year. There's been some ups, there's been some downs, but I feel like for the most part I've learned from my mistakes each week. I think the game's stating to slow down a little bit, but I really still have a long way to go before I'm as comfortable as I want to be."

The voters certainly were comfortable with Bradford's passing and leadership.

He earned 44 votes from a nationwide panel of 50 media members who regularly cover the league. Only two other rookies received votes: Tampa Bay wide receiver Mike Williams earned four, and Pittsburgh center Maurkice Pouncey had two.

Bradford is the fourth quarterback since 2004 to win the award. Before that, no quarterbacks had won it.

"If you asked me before the season, I probably wouldn't have said that we would have thrown the ball as much," Bradford said. "As a quarterback, you love to throw the football. So the fact that our coaching staff feels comfortable with the ball in my hands just gives me confidence. It makes me feel very good about going out there on Sundays."

Health was one of the major questions about Bradford when he came out of college.

He won the 2008 Heisman Trophy as a redshirt sophomore, when the Sooners lost to Florida for the national championship, then decided to stay at Oklahoma another season. It was cut short by an early shoulder injury and he barely played in 2009. Still, Bradford so impressed pro scouts in postseason workouts that he was a consensus No. 1 pick.

The questions about his durability remained, and he answered them by taking every snap this season. He threw 590 passes, completing 60 percent for 18 touchdowns and 15 interceptions.

"I take a lot in that, especially coming off the shoulder injury last year and knowing that there were a lot of questions about my durability, about my ability to take hits in this league," Bradford said. "So the fact that I've been able to take every snap with this offense, I do take a lot of pride in that."

Bradford became the starter in training camp and never looked over that shoulder. Coach Steve Spagnuolo and offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur placed their faith in him, and he came through like, well, a rookie of the year.

It didn't begin well -- Bradford threw three interceptions and was sacked twice in a 17-13 loss to Arizona. But he began to hit his stride in midseason, at one point going four straight games and five of six without being picked off.

His best performances came in a 36-33 win over Denver, when he had three TD passes and a season-best 308 yards through the air, and in a 20-10 win over Carolina that featured 25-of-32 passing and two touchdowns.

"He's obviously extremely talented, and I think he works his fanny off to make sure that he does the right things and masters the game plan," said Shurmur, now the head coach in Cleveland. "So to say I would be surprised, I would say no.

"To be thankful that he is what he is, I would say yes."

Pittsburgh's Ben Roethlisberger was the first quarterback to win Offensive Rookie of the Year, in 2004, followed by Tennessee's Vince Young in 2006 and Atlanta's Matt Ryan in 2008.

Williams, a fourth-round pick (101 overall) from Syracuse, had 65 catches for 964 yards and 11 touchdowns this season. Pouncey, the rare offensive lineman to collect votes, was a standout in helping the Steelers win the AFC North title.

Hydrae · 02-05-2011, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

There is a reason this maybe from the most popular post in Chiefs Planet history.

http://www.xtranormal.com/profile/2501955/

I had not seen that before. I am going to have to give Fax rep for that!

BigCatDaddy · 02-05-2011, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae

I had not seen that before. I am going to have to give Fax rep for that!

It should probably be a sticky.

FringeNC · 02-05-2011, 02:27 PM

Colt McCoy looked good, too, I thought. Jimmy Clausen did not. It's much too earlier to judge any of these guys, but the idea that college spread QBs are apt to fail in an NFL offense seems less plausible now. Fact is, most college QBs fail in the NFL, regardless of the college offense they ran.

It seems about the only thing we know for sure is that a QB with very bad intangibles, like JaMarcus Russell, should never be drafted early, despite a "thumbs up" from Mecca.

Chiefnj2 · 02-05-2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition

Each and every Draftabulator has more rep than you. Plus far, far more 100 post threads. You're worthless and should be ignored.

WHich mult are you?

BigCatDaddy · 02-05-2011, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

Colt McCoy looked good, too, I thought. Jimmy Clausen did not. It's much too earlier to judge any of these guys, but the idea that college spread QBs are apt to fail in an NFL offense seems less plausible now. Fact is, most college QBs fail in the NFL, regardless of the college offense they ran.

It seems about the only thing we know for sure is that a QB with very bad intangibles, like JaMarcus Russell, should never be drafted early, despite a "thumbs up" from Mecca.

I went back and looked at the last 7 or 8 drafts when shotgun/spread attacks starting gaining popularity. 1st round QB's from spread/shotgun systems are much more likely to be successful then 1st round QB's taken from other offensive systems. The hit/bust ratio is much more in favor of taking the spread QB if he already has a 1st round grade.

stevieray · 02-05-2011, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Yeah....**** those guys for having an opinion.

IIRC....weren't you guys gonna paint Clausen's name on your chests whilst @ Arrowhead?

that would've been pretty funny.

KurtCobain · 02-05-2011, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

IIRC....weren't you guys gonna paint Clausen's name on your chests whilst @ Arrowhead?

that would've been pretty funny.

Who says he wouldn't have looked better under Weiss? He could've easily given a rookie year illusion to being something had he played here.

Saccopoo · 02-05-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

It should probably be a sticky.

At least in the Draft Planet section.

stevieray · 02-05-2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain

Who says he wouldn't have looked better under Weiss? He could've easily given a rookie year illusion to being something had he played here.

Saccopoo · 02-05-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain

Who says he wouldn't have looked better under Weiss?

Me, for one.

The dream of having Weis coach a quarterback that played under him in college doesn't translate to the pros. The guy simply doesn't have the footwork/athleticism combined with average height, small hand size and lack of arm strength to make it as a starter in the NFL in todays game, which to the possible amazement of some, has transitioned itself into a more open, optionish type of offensive game that tends to emulate the success of the "spread" offense in the college game.

However, because a lot of people "in the know" have used that "he played in a pro style set so he's more ready to play in the pros" schtick, it has trickled down into the drafturbator street lingo without an understanding of the actual players, the development of the NFL game, etc. It was an easy way to pick a quarterback without putting too much thought into it. e.g.: "Shit! The dude played for USC! They ran a "pro style" offense! He's got to be the best quarterback in the draft!"

(Sub-considerations were that a guy played for a former pro coach running a pro style set at a big name school, which only recruited the best of the best of the best in terms of high school talent. A rival four star guy going to a name program would immediately add drafturbator street cred to that player four or five years later when they had a chance at the pros, irregardless of the fact that maybe, just maybe, the guy capped himself out in high school and some guys actually continued to get bigger and stronger and better as they matured. It's like the bully in eighth grade who simply matured four years earlier than everyone else.)

Just because he played for Weis doesn't mean that he was going to be an All-Pro as a Chief while Weis was coaching here. Unfortunately, a lot of people around here thought that very thing and was the single biggest determining factor in their love/idolatry of Jimmy Clausen prior to the 2010 draft.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-06-2011, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

I didn't think this group had a problem with Bradford at #1 but I could be misremembering things seeing as how I can't even find my own car keys this morning.

I severely underestimated him. Badly. Remember the Llama?

Yep, my FAIL.

Oh, how I would LOVE to be "Llamafied" or some such thing instead of being Cassholed.

I will rejoice and have my soul freed the day Shat Cassholi leaves this team and town.

|Zach| · 02-06-2011, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ROR

I will rejoice and have my soul freed the day Shat Cassholi leaves this team and town.

He will play just fine next year and you will be back on the bandwagon. Don't worry we all know the kind of guy you are.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-06-2011, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

He will play just fine next year and you will be back on the bandwagon. Don't worry we all know the kind of guy you are.

1) No, you really don't.

2) He will play "just fine" enough to fill a uni he didn't ever earn.

Keys to the car, without a license.

TheGuardian · 02-06-2011, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

You can have an opinion without calling everyone else a stupid muther ****er for having one different then you. Then when you do that and you are wrong it kind of comes back and bites you in the ass. Besides they don't give opinions they believe they are giving predestined facts and present them as such.

Truer words have never been spoken.

Pestilence should also get off their dicks.

Al Bundy · 02-06-2011, 09:10 AM

Bradford looked good for about 3 quarters against the Bucs.

02-05-2011, 08:52 AM
BigCatDaddy The Beast Inside Your Head Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $1539122	And The Draftabulators Take One Up The Rectum DALLAS -- Top draft choice, top rookie. St. Louis Rams quarterback Sam Bradford won The Associated Press 2010 NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year award on Friday. The first overall selection in last year's draft, Bradford guided the Rams from the embarrassment of a 1-15 record to a 7-9 mark. In the weak NFC West, that was good enough to contend for the division title; St. Louis lost out on a tiebreaker to Seattle. "I think the more I'm out there, the more comfortable I become," Bradford said. "It's been like that all year. There's been some ups, there's been some downs, but I feel like for the most part I've learned from my mistakes each week. I think the game's stating to slow down a little bit, but I really still have a long way to go before I'm as comfortable as I want to be." The voters certainly were comfortable with Bradford's passing and leadership. He earned 44 votes from a nationwide panel of 50 media members who regularly cover the league. Only two other rookies received votes: Tampa Bay wide receiver Mike Williams earned four, and Pittsburgh center Maurkice Pouncey had two. Bradford is the fourth quarterback since 2004 to win the award. Before that, no quarterbacks had won it. "If you asked me before the season, I probably wouldn't have said that we would have thrown the ball as much," Bradford said. "As a quarterback, you love to throw the football. So the fact that our coaching staff feels comfortable with the ball in my hands just gives me confidence. It makes me feel very good about going out there on Sundays." Health was one of the major questions about Bradford when he came out of college. He won the 2008 Heisman Trophy as a redshirt sophomore, when the Sooners lost to Florida for the national championship, then decided to stay at Oklahoma another season. It was cut short by an early shoulder injury and he barely played in 2009. Still, Bradford so impressed pro scouts in postseason workouts that he was a consensus No. 1 pick. The questions about his durability remained, and he answered them by taking every snap this season. He threw 590 passes, completing 60 percent for 18 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. "I take a lot in that, especially coming off the shoulder injury last year and knowing that there were a lot of questions about my durability, about my ability to take hits in this league," Bradford said. "So the fact that I've been able to take every snap with this offense, I do take a lot of pride in that." Bradford became the starter in training camp and never looked over that shoulder. Coach Steve Spagnuolo and offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur placed their faith in him, and he came through like, well, a rookie of the year. It didn't begin well -- Bradford threw three interceptions and was sacked twice in a 17-13 loss to Arizona. But he began to hit his stride in midseason, at one point going four straight games and five of six without being picked off. His best performances came in a 36-33 win over Denver, when he had three TD passes and a season-best 308 yards through the air, and in a 20-10 win over Carolina that featured 25-of-32 passing and two touchdowns. "He's obviously extremely talented, and I think he works his fanny off to make sure that he does the right things and masters the game plan," said Shurmur, now the head coach in Cleveland. "So to say I would be surprised, I would say no. "To be thankful that he is what he is, I would say yes." Pittsburgh's Ben Roethlisberger was the first quarterback to win Offensive Rookie of the Year, in 2004, followed by Tennessee's Vince Young in 2006 and Atlanta's Matt Ryan in 2008. Williams, a fourth-round pick (101 overall) from Syracuse, had 65 catches for 964 yards and 11 touchdowns this season. Pouncey, the rare offensive lineman to collect votes, was a standout in helping the Steelers win the AFC North title.
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FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $1356014	Colt McCoy looked good, too, I thought. Jimmy Clausen did not. It's much too earlier to judge any of these guys, but the idea that college spread QBs are apt to fail in an NFL offense seems less plausible now. Fact is, most college QBs fail in the NFL, regardless of the college offense they ran. It seems about the only thing we know for sure is that a QB with very bad intangibles, like JaMarcus Russell, should never be drafted early, despite a "thumbs up" from Mecca.
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02-06-2011, 09:10 AM	#45
Al Bundy Damnit Peg Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $5151831	Bradford looked good for about 3 quarters against the Bucs.
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