My best guess at a 1st Round Mock - Page 3

Dante84 · 04-21-2011, 08:01 PM

Bring it, you ****s.

I predict a very heavy run on QB's in the first round this year, as there are so many teams with needs, and even though there are 3 "FA" QB's available (VY, DM, KC-via trade) no one can rely on FA pick ups until this lockout ends. Pretty risky. Even the teams who do pick up those FA's will still need QBOTF's.

It's impossible to guess all the trades, but I went with two.

Carolina: CAM NEWTON
Denver: MARCEL DAREUS
Buffalo: VON MILLER
Cincinnati: BLAINE GABBERT
Arizona: CHRISTIAN PONDER
Cleveland: A.J. GREEN
San Francisco: PATRICK PETERSON
Tennessee: NICK FAIRLEY
Dallas: TYRON SMITH
Washington: JULIO JONES
Houston: PRINCE AMUKAMARA
Minnesota: DA'QUAN BOWERS
Detroit: NATE SOLDER
St. Louis: COREY LIUGET
Miami: MARK INGRAM
Jacksonville: CAMERON JORDAN
New England: J.J. WATT
San Diego: RYAN KERRIGAN
New York Giants: MIKE POUNCEY
Tampa Bay: AKEEM AYERS
Kansas City: MOHAMMAD WILKERSON
Indianapolis: ANTHONY CASTONOZO
Philadelphia: JIMMY SMITH
New Orleans: CAMERON HEYWARD
Seattle: JAKE LOCKER
Baltimore: AARON WILLIAMS
Atlanta: PHIL TAYLOR
**Buffalo (via NE): TRADES UP; BUFFALO SELECTS RYAN MALLETT
Chicago: GABE CARIMI
New York Jets: JUSTIN HOUSTON
Pittsburgh: DANNY WATKINS
**Washington (via GB): TRADES UP; WASHINGTON SELECTS ANDY DALTON

mcaj22 · 04-25-2011, 12:41 PM

how would Aldon Smith fall out of the first round exactly let alone be lucky to have him fall to KC at 21 and they would be stupid not to take him.

**Gadzooks** · 04-25-2011, 12:57 PM

The fact that New England is allowed to draft in the first round this year, (they weren't busted for cheating yet), really screws things up in terms of predictions.
We all know they'll rape some team that has a stiffy for a guy who drops and will end up trading for an extra first next year and a nice 2nd or 3rd this year.

My question is... Since the lockout is in effect and no players can be traded, is there anything barring teams from trading for "Future Considerations"? For example: Arizona wants to trade their 1st rounder for Philly's second rounder plus future considerations, (Kolb).
I know this type of honor system is alive and well in the NHL but would it fly in the NFL under these circumstances?

BigCatDaddy · 04-25-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Zooks

The fact that New England is allowed to draft in the first round this year, (they weren't busted for cheating yet), really screws things up in terms of predictions.
We all know they'll rape some team that has a stiffy for a guy who drops and will end up trading for an extra first next year and a nice 2nd or 3rd this year.

My question is... Since the lockout is in effect and no players can be traded, is there anything barring teams from trading for "Future Considerations"? For example: Arizona wants to trade their 1st rounder for Philly's second rounder plus future considerations, (Kolb).
I know this type of honor system is alive and well in the NHL but would it fly in the NFL under these circumstances?

Yeah, the old player to be named later trade huh? Good question.

kcbubb · 04-25-2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

how would Aldon Smith fall out of the first round exactly let alone be lucky to have him fall to KC at 21 and they would be stupid not to take him.

This. KC would jump on Aldon Smith at 21. Dante84 is a tard.

kcbubb · 04-25-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Says the guy who wants to trade Dorsey.

Says the guy who wanted Clausen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

If Berry gets picked before us....then I'm all for drafting Clausen. I know it's not going to happen....but I'd be all for it if it does.

And yes it is obvious that Dorsey provides more value to a team that can better utilize his skill set. And we should be able to find 5 tech replacement either in the draft or free agency.

You should find a new hobby because you suck at player evaluation.

Jethopper · 04-25-2011, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

Says the guy who wanted Clausen.

And yes it is obvious that Dorsey provides more value to a team that can better utilize his skill set. And we should be able to find 5 tech replacement either in the draft or free agency.

You should find a new hobby because you suck at player evaluation.

**the Talking Can** · 04-25-2011, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

Says the guy who wanted Clausen.

And yes it is obvious that Dorsey provides more value to a team that can better utilize his skill set. And we should be able to find 5 tech replacement either in the draft or free agency.

You should find a new hobby because you suck at player evaluation.

trading Dorsey is ****ing reeruned

stop being ****ing reeruned

**The Franchise** · 04-25-2011, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcbubb

Says the guy who wanted Clausen.

And yes it is obvious that Dorsey provides more value to a team that can better utilize his skill set. And we should be able to find 5 tech replacement either in the draft or free agency.

You should find a new hobby because you suck at player evaluation.

And? I never said I had a problem with who you wanted to draft. You're a ****ing idiot for wanting to trade Dorsey.

Barret · 04-25-2011, 03:00 PM

Well I see that I have to "Put up or shut up" so here is my 1-32 draft and then what I see the Chiefs getting through the rest of the rounds.

CAROLINA: Cameron Newton
DENVER: Marcell DArius
BUFFALO: Nick Fairly
CINCINNATI: A.J Green
ARIZONA: Blaine Gabbert
CLEVELAND: Von Miller
San Fransisco: Patrick Peterson
TENNESSEE: Da'Quan Bowers
DALLAS: Tyron Smith
WASHINGTON: Jake Locker
HOUSTON: Robert Quinn
MINNESOTA: Julio Jones
DETROIT: Prince Amukamara
ST. LOUIS: Cameron Jordon
MIAMI: Ryan Mallet
JACKSONVILLE: Ryan Kerrigan
NEW ENGLAND: Anthony Costanzo
SAN DIEGO: J.J. WAtt
NEW YORK GIANTS: Cory Liuget
TAMPA BAY: Justin Houston
KANSAS CITY: Aldon Smith
INDIANAPOLIS: Gabe Carimi
PHILADELPHIA: Jimmy Smith
NEW ORLEANS: Cameron Heyward
SEATTLE: Brandon Harris
BALTIMORE: Leonard Hankerson
ATLANTA: Derek Sherrod
NEW ENGLAND: Muhammed Wilkerson
CHICAGO: Nate Soldier
NEW YORK JETS: Jabaal Sheard
PITTSBURGH: Stefan Weisneski
GREEN BAY: Martez Wilson

Round 2 Chiefs: Andy Dalton QB
Round 3 Chiefs: Jerrell Powe NT
Round 4 Chiefs: Tim Barnes OC
Round 5 Chiefs: Shane Vereen RB
Round 5 pick 2: Julius Thomas TE
Round 6 Chiefs: Aldrick Robinson WR

Dante84 · 04-25-2011, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barret

Well I see that I have to "Put up or shut up" so here is my 1-32 draft and then what I see the Chiefs getting through the rest of the rounds.

CAROLINA: Cameron Newton
DENVER:
BUFFALO:
CINCINNATI:
ARIZONA:
CLEVELAND:
San Fransisco
TENNESSEE:
DALLAS:
WASHINGTON:
HOUSTON:
MINNESOTA:
DETROIT:
ST. LOUIS:
MIAMI:
JACKSONVILLE:
NEW ENGLAND:
SAN DIEGO:
NEW YORK GIANTS:
TAMPA BAY:
KANSAS CITY:
INDIANAPOLIS:
PHILADELPHIA:
NEW ORLEANS:
SEATTLE:
BALTIMORE:
ATLANTA:
NEW ENGLAND:
CHICAGO:
NEW YORK JETS:
PITTSBURGH:
GREEN BAY:

When will you understand? Lockout MEANS LOCKOUT!

Barret · 04-25-2011, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84

When will you understand? Lockout MEANS LOCKOUT!

Lol, this is what happens when you try to do this stuff at work and the boss comes in and you get all click happy trying to shut stuff down off the screen.

Dante84 · 04-25-2011, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Barret

Lol, this is what happens when you try to do this stuff at work and the boss comes in and you get all click happy trying to shut stuff down off the screen.

Just giving ya shit

I like that mock, very reasonable. I noticed you have Pouncey slipping out of the first?

Barret · 04-25-2011, 07:33 PM

Yea, I used the Drafttek.com website and it's draft simulator. If there is someone I like or think there is a need that is picked after The Chiefs pick I can lock that player out. The Sim had Aldon Smith dropping to New Orleans I think originally at 23 so I locked him out as a first round pick for the Chiefs at 21

Same thing happened at round 2 where Dalton was taken by Seattle or something about 2 to 3 slots down. A lot of the QB's were gone by then and they assigned value to all those picks, Dalton wasn't that bad of a loss on value and there wasn't any other real choices there, so I locked him out.

Everything else is done by the simulator as far as picks.

As far as your question about Pouncy, yea the sim had him going in the early second round. No way to go up and get him and it was a value loss to do it so I didn't.

04-21-2011, 08:01 PM
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $-1858004 VARSITY	My best guess at a 1st Round Mock Bring it, you **s. I predict a very heavy run on QB's in the first round this year, as there are so many teams with needs, and even though there are 3 "FA" QB's available (VY, DM, KC-via trade) no one can rely on FA pick ups until this lockout ends. Pretty risky. Even the teams who do pick up those FA's will still need QBOTF's. It's impossible to guess all the trades, but I went with two. Carolina: CAM NEWTON Denver: MARCEL DAREUS Buffalo: VON MILLER Cincinnati: BLAINE GABBERT Arizona: CHRISTIAN PONDER Cleveland: A.J. GREEN San Francisco: PATRICK PETERSON Tennessee: NICK FAIRLEY Dallas: TYRON SMITH Washington: JULIO JONES Houston: PRINCE AMUKAMARA Minnesota: DA'QUAN BOWERS Detroit: NATE SOLDER St. Louis: COREY LIUGET Miami: MARK INGRAM Jacksonville: CAMERON JORDAN New England: J.J. WATT San Diego: RYAN KERRIGAN New York Giants: MIKE POUNCEY Tampa Bay: AKEEM AYERS Kansas City: MOHAMMAD WILKERSON Indianapolis: ANTHONY CASTONOZO Philadelphia: JIMMY SMITH New Orleans: CAMERON HEYWARD Seattle: JAKE LOCKER Baltimore: AARON WILLIAMS Atlanta: PHIL TAYLOR Buffalo (via NE): TRADES UP; BUFFALO SELECTS RYAN MALLETT Chicago: GABE CARIMI New York Jets: JUSTIN HOUSTON Pittsburgh: DANNY WATKINS **Washington (via GB): TRADES UP; WASHINGTON SELECTS ANDY DALTON
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04-25-2011, 12:41 PM	#31
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	how would Aldon Smith fall out of the first round exactly let alone be lucky to have him fall to KC at 21 and they would be stupid not to take him.
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04-25-2011, 12:57 PM	#32
Gadzooks MFIC Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tromsø, Norway Casino cash: $3729219	The fact that New England is allowed to draft in the first round this year, (they weren't busted for cheating yet), really screws things up in terms of predictions. We all know they'll rape some team that has a stiffy for a guy who drops and will end up trading for an extra first next year and a nice 2nd or 3rd this year. My question is... Since the lockout is in effect and no players can be traded, is there anything barring teams from trading for "Future Considerations"? For example: Arizona wants to trade their 1st rounder for Philly's second rounder plus future considerations, (Kolb). I know this type of honor system is alive and well in the NHL but would it fly in the NFL under these circumstances?
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04-25-2011, 03:00 PM	#39
Barret Still Lurking Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: East Texas Casino cash: $1983790	Well I see that I have to "Put up or shut up" so here is my 1-32 draft and then what I see the Chiefs getting through the rest of the rounds. CAROLINA: Cameron Newton DENVER: Marcell DArius BUFFALO: Nick Fairly CINCINNATI: A.J Green ARIZONA: Blaine Gabbert CLEVELAND: Von Miller San Fransisco: Patrick Peterson TENNESSEE: Da'Quan Bowers DALLAS: Tyron Smith WASHINGTON: Jake Locker HOUSTON: Robert Quinn MINNESOTA: Julio Jones DETROIT: Prince Amukamara ST. LOUIS: Cameron Jordon MIAMI: Ryan Mallet JACKSONVILLE: Ryan Kerrigan NEW ENGLAND: Anthony Costanzo SAN DIEGO: J.J. WAtt NEW YORK GIANTS: Cory Liuget TAMPA BAY: Justin Houston KANSAS CITY: Aldon Smith INDIANAPOLIS: Gabe Carimi PHILADELPHIA: Jimmy Smith NEW ORLEANS: Cameron Heyward SEATTLE: Brandon Harris BALTIMORE: Leonard Hankerson ATLANTA: Derek Sherrod NEW ENGLAND: Muhammed Wilkerson CHICAGO: Nate Soldier NEW YORK JETS: Jabaal Sheard PITTSBURGH: Stefan Weisneski GREEN BAY: Martez Wilson Round 2 Chiefs: Andy Dalton QB Round 3 Chiefs: Jerrell Powe NT Round 4 Chiefs: Tim Barnes OC Round 5 Chiefs: Shane Vereen RB Round 5 pick 2: Julius Thomas TE Round 6 Chiefs: Aldrick Robinson WR Last edited by Barret; 04-25-2011 at 03:12 PM.. Reason: damn hit send to early
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04-25-2011, 07:33 PM	#43
Barret Still Lurking Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: East Texas Casino cash: $1983790	Yea, I used the Drafttek.com website and it's draft simulator. If there is someone I like or think there is a need that is picked after The Chiefs pick I can lock that player out. The Sim had Aldon Smith dropping to New Orleans I think originally at 23 so I locked him out as a first round pick for the Chiefs at 21 Same thing happened at round 2 where Dalton was taken by Seattle or something about 2 to 3 slots down. A lot of the QB's were gone by then and they assigned value to all those picks, Dalton wasn't that bad of a loss on value and there wasn't any other real choices there, so I locked him out. Everything else is done by the simulator as far as picks. As far as your question about Pouncy, yea the sim had him going in the early second round. No way to go up and get him and it was a value loss to do it so I didn't.
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