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**Tribal Warfare** · 08-15-2011, 02:27 AM

Chiefs' Haley not changing approach to preseason
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

ST. JOSEPH | The Chiefs looked unprepared for Friday night’s exhibition opener compared with their opponents, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The fact the Chiefs were dominated in a 25-0 defeat was perhaps inevitable given that they spent the previous two weeks of training camp working more on conditioning than football.

They may be in for more of the same Friday night when the preseason schedule continues with a game against the Ravens in Baltimore. Coach Todd Haley said he won’t alter the approach this week as camp resumes at Missouri Western.

The Chiefs returned to practice Sunday afternoon.

“I feel really good about the plan,” Haley said. “I said it after the game, it was the first one and not the last one, and I’m going all the way to the last one of the season. We’re in training camp, and as I keep telling the players, there’s no light at the end of the tunnel. Each and every day counts for us and for them to getting this team where it needs to be to start the season.

“I feel good about what we’re doing. We have a plan for this week. We’re going to have another game Friday at Baltimore. But the plan is again going to revolve more about us than anything else right now.”

The Chiefs were in full pads Sunday for the entire practice for the first time at camp. There was some contact but not to the normal standards for a padded practice at camp.

Haley said he is preparing for the Chiefs for the regular season, which begins Sept. 11 against Buffalo at Arrowhead Stadium. He indicated the route he’s taking for the Chiefs is best given the lack of offseason practice and conditioning sessions because of the lockout.

The Chiefs didn’t practice in pads or hold as many contact drills as several other NFL teams during the first two weeks of camp. Haley said he wants all players on equal footing with regard to physical conditioning before he turns them loose in practice.

“I don’t think we’re out of the woods as far as where we are physically,” Haley said. “We’ve got a couple of new, new guys on the roster in addition to some guys that weren’t quite there as last week wound down. That’s still the No. 1 thing for us and for me as the head coach is to get this team taking every day possible to physically get these guys into a position to succeed and hold up for what we hope is a good, long season.

“This time of year, you’re used to being in pads a little more and you’re used to doing things a little differently but (this year) it’s a different set of circumstances. The goal is to be ready for Sept. 11. That’s all really that I’m focused on, and these other things will take care of themselves.”

Haley said some of his assistants had been pushing him to do more in practice. At least one member of the staff, defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel, said he understood the situation because it’s been such a strange year for both players and coaches.

“Every team is doing things different,” Crennel said. “Everybody is trying to figure it out. You do what you feel like is best and you go from there. That’s what we’re doing. We think we can be ready Sept. 11.”

Haley resisted the urging from his assistants to bring the Chiefs along faster.

“As the head coach, you have to look at the big picture all the time,” Haley said. “I’ve been an assistant coach and I know how assistant coaches think … they have their area or their agenda that they have to worry about first and foremost, but it’s my job to look at the big picture.

“We’ve got a great, experienced coaching staff. We have great conversations, but there hasn’t been a time when we’ve left any meeting or gone to spread the message to the players that we’re not all on the same page.”

Haley said that after watching the video of the Tampa Bay game, the situation wasn’t as bad as it looked at first glance. On offense, the Chiefs had just 137 yards and had trouble blocking for their quarterbacks.

On defense, the Chiefs missed some tackles. Both are symptoms of when a team hasn’t adequately prepared, at least from a physical standpoint.

“When you watch a game live, when there’s a jailbreak offensively and the quarterback is under great duress, you tend to think it’s everybody,” Haley said. “But it was one guy here, one guy there. It wasn’t three or four guys all with breakdowns.

“It was the same defensively. Our defense only works if everybody is doing their job first. We had some instances where one guy got out of place, and that then made a lot of guys look like maybe they weren’t doing that they’re supposed to.”

Chiefnj2 · 08-15-2011, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by denverdanchiefsfan

How many of the 10 ruptured achillies in NFL training camps have come from the Chiefs?

There were 9 last year in the NFL preseason.

LOCOChief · 08-15-2011, 11:27 AM

I'm alll for Haley's approach. Look at some of the names popping up on other teams injury report today. If we had played Charles, DJ or Hali and one of them came up hurt Friday this place would go balistic.

we'll be fast and healthy for Buffalo

Blick · 08-15-2011, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

If we get off to a slow start we are screwed.

The second half of the season we face several legit Super Bowl caliber teams.

Nov 21	KC @ NE
Nov 27	PIT @ KC
Dec 04	KC @ CHI
Dec 11	KC @ NYJ
Dec 18	GB @ KC

we could lose all 5 of these even playing our best. We also play @San Diego in week 3 and @indy week 5 where we could get our asses handed to us.

Worrying about the schedule is like worrying about injuries to me.

We have some tough games? So what...we're supposed to be a good team.

We might have some injuries? So what...we're supposed to be a good team.

Things rarely go perfectly for good teams. Good teams are usually the teams that handle adversity the best.

Since the Chiefs were unusually healthy last year, it seems like Haley is hoping for that again this year. That's just unrealistic, IMO.

Messier · 08-15-2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

There were 9 last year in the NFL preseason.

In the whole preseason? because these all happened before any preseason games were played.

Blick · 08-15-2011, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by denverdanchiefsfan

How many of the 10 ruptured achillies in NFL training camps have come from the Chiefs?

Wouldn't even be a story if it wasn't for the lockout.

Season-ending injuries happen every year.

Chiefnj2 · 08-15-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier

In the whole preseason? because these all happened before any preseason games were played.

Whole preseason. If every other team has players dropping like flies and KC comes out sharp the first 4 games, then Haley will be correct and 30 other head coaches wrong.

Messier · 08-15-2011, 11:38 AM

I expect more of the same this week. Unlike most years, I think the Chiefs are going to slowly ramp up to the regular season, with week four having much more importance than a regular preseason game four.

**Rausch** · 08-15-2011, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

These guys have done nothing for 7 months. No OTA's and I imagine limited conditioning since it had to be done on their own.

If they were going full bore right now and guys were getting hurt people would be screaming about Haley being an ignorant dumbass like they were after his first TC and all the conditioning they were doing.

I think it's a smart plan.

And I'm as big a critic as Haley's got...

Messier · 08-15-2011, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Whole preseason. If every other team has players dropping like flies and KC comes out sharp the first 4 games, then Haley will be correct and 30 other head coaches wrong.

Are the Chiefs the only team in the NFL doing it this way? You know this? I have no idea how the Colts, or the Jags are running their training camps, but if you know the other teams are all operating differently I'll take your word for it.

Hydrae · 08-15-2011, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Whole preseason. If every other team has players dropping like flies and KC comes out sharp the first 4 games, then Haley will be correct and 30 other head coaches wrong.

Maybe even 31.

lcarus · 08-15-2011, 11:45 AM

I just hope Cassel gets a lot of work in with Bowe, Breaston, and Baldwin as his 3 WRs.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-15-2011, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Blick

If that's true, then we have a team full of unprofessional, lazy ****s. Every other team was in the same boat, and other teams are hitting each other in practice.

I think Haley's approach is going to put guys at risk for injury too. It seems like they are just going to try to "flip the switch" when the regular season starts and I think that's a dangerous approach with a young team like Chiefnj2 points out.

Give me a break. You should know better than that by now with this Chiefs team.

**Renegade** · 08-15-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rocknrolla

Who cares. I just hope Haley is doing the right thing.

I really don't care if we lose 70-0. What does matter is that the young guys are given a proper evaluation. The "game" last week did not do anything for evaluating our talent, so how do we know who the "right 54" are. I just think proper evaluation can't be determined if it isn't actual full speed contact in a game situation

Blick · 08-15-2011, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Give me a break. You should know better than that by now with this Chiefs team.

That's why it's disappointing that Haley is holding back so much and worrying so much about conditioning. The guys should be in good shape, and we should have been able to hit the ground running after the lockout, IMO.

Reerun_KC · 08-15-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Blick

That's why it's disappointing that Haley is holding back so much and worrying so much about conditioning. The guys should be in good shape, and we should have been able to hit the ground running after the lockout, IMO.

Well their not and they can't, so why bitch to Haley that they should be running things your way?

Youre not making much sense here.

08-15-2011, 02:27 AM
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