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Old 12-16-2011, 11:10 AM  
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What do you give up to move up?
Assume for the sake of argument KC wins another game or two and finishes somewhere around 13 in the draft. The top 6 are:

1 Colts 0 16
2 Rams 2 14
3 Vikings 2 14
4 Washington 4 12
5 Panthers 4 12
6 Browns 4 12
7 Dolphins 4 12

The Colts are going with Luck and aren't trading. You want to move up for Barkley and/or Griffin. What do you give up for each of them, and which spot are trying to get to?

I'd offer the Vikings the 2012 1st and 2nd, and 2013 1st for RGIII. I'm not sure about Barkley yet.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:30 PM   #31
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:35 PM   #32
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If the QB works out, it's damn near impossible to overpay for him, and if he doesn't, you're in the same place you were without him.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:39 PM   #33
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If the QB works out, it's damn near impossible to overpay for him, and if he doesn't, you're in the same place you were without him.
The Franchise would be without 3 high picks and easily ****ed for a good 4 years. I'd much rather try to package a player in the deal to try and save one of those picks.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:41 PM   #34
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:43 PM   #35
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The Franchise would be without 3 high picks and easily ****ed for a good 4 years. I'd much rather try to package a player in the deal to try and save one of those picks.
No, it wouldn't.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:44 PM   #36
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i really dont care how Pioli does it, i just wanna see him set this team up with a legit QB.
We had a legit QB in Montana and still couldn't make it to the dance. Everything is a crapshot in this league (and a whole lot of lady luck on your side)
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:44 PM   #37
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The Franchise would be without 3 high picks and easily ****ed for a good 4 years. I'd much rather try to package a player in the deal to try and save one of those picks.
How would you be ****ed for 4 years?
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:45 PM   #38
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A 1st and a 2nd this year + a 2nd next year.

So you only give up two #2's.
I can live with that.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:47 PM   #39
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We had a legit QB in Montana and still couldn't make it to the dance. Everything is a crapshot in this league (and a whole lot of lady luck on your side)
He was healthy for one year and we won two playoff games. We haven't won another in 18 years, and the the message you get from this is that it's a crapshoot?
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We had a legit QB in Montana and still couldn't make it to the dance. Everything is a crapshot in this league (and a whole lot of lady luck on your side)
Having a legit QB for 1 and 3/4 seasons isn't quite the same as drafting one that you hope will be around for 10 years.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:47 PM   #41
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The Franchise would be without 3 high picks and easily ****ed for a good 4 years. I'd much rather try to package a player in the deal to try and save one of those picks.
The only players of much value are Johnson, Hali, and Bowe.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:48 PM   #42
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The Franchise would be without 3 high picks and easily ****ed for a good 4 years. I'd much rather try to package a player in the deal to try and save one of those picks.
Problem is that player deals rare happen anymore. I don't know if it's cap issues or why that is but you just don't see them that often.

I'm willing to part with some picks to get the guy of the future. Shoot as it stands now, we could have traded away the entire 2009 draft and we'd only be out a kicker.
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No, it wouldn't.

If the QB is unproductive and you are without a first next year and 2 second round picks you are trying to tell me this wouldn't have a long term effect on the franchise? Bullshit.
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If the QB is unproductive and you are without a first next year and 2 second round picks you are trying to tell me this wouldn't have a long term effect on the franchise? Bullshit.
Look around you, billay, we're at the threshold of Hell.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:54 PM   #45
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Bowe and our 3rd RD to the ram's for the #2 pick

Rams#2 pick + our #12(maybe higher) pick to the Colts for the #1 pick

Draft Luck

Baldwin and Breaston our starting WR's next year. Maybe sign a veteran FA WR and/or draft another WR.
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