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Whitlock thinks RG3's speed is a curse
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I agree with TheGuardian pocket passers= SB's.
But to me RG3 is the exception. He has a pocket passer's arm which usually with a mobile qb is not the case. If he got injured and lost mobility but somehow it didn't affect his passing I would still build around him. |
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I agree with some of this... and I've said as much. Not that it would necessarily keep me from drafting the guy. Yeah Luck is mobile too but he is not anywhere near Griffin's universe. Few people are... Griffin is a once in a decade talent. But nobody has ever won with a scrambling QB. He will have to become an elite passer as well to win. Remember when Young won he set a record for Super Bowl passing TDs and was one of the best passing QBs in the league. My other concern is Griffin is not a big tank like Newton or Tebow... so he's probably a bigger injury risk. But I think he's a better passer than Vick or Vince Young... his potential is off the charts.
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There is no pigeon holing here, the same thing was said of Tebow. And it turned out to be true. RGIII is not a pocket passer. If the Chiefs are going to draft a QB to build around as a franchise QB, it needs to be the kinds that you know, win super bowls? And those are pocket passers. RGIII is a running QB. You don't rush for 846, 635, and 700 yards if you're a pocket passer. You wanna know how many yards Vick ran for in his two years at VT? 585 and 617. You wanna know how many yards Luck rushed for at Stanford? 354 453 150 What about Tebow? 910 673 895 469 (freshman year) RGIII is a running QB. The odds that he will lead a team to a SB are slim and none. But this board has gone ****ing crazy because like I said, half the people here wanted to draft Clausen last year, when it was clear to sane people he sucked. Drafting a QB just for the sake of it is ****ing stupid beyond comprehension. |
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That's really another knock against him as well. That spread offense has produced lots of guys that don't transition well into pro style offenses. Again, this board just wants to draft ANY QB......JUST BECAUSE. |
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It does make you wonder a little bit though if the threat of the run from RGIII caused safeties and corners to play a little more cautious. |
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Nice job at abusing statistics to agree with your horribly flawed analysis. You know how many yards Vick threw for in college? 3,279. Total. In two years. Griffin threw for 4,293 last year alone. 3,501 the year before. Tebow threw for 3,286 yards in his sophomore, Heisman winning season. He didn't eclipse 3,000 yards in any other of his 4 seasons at Florida. Vick ran the ball 40% of the time, passing 60%. Tebow ran the ball 39% of the time, passing 61% (in his 3yrs as a starter). Griffin III ran the ball 28% of the time, passing 72% (over past 2 seasons). Hell, Cam Newton was nearly 50/50. At Auburn he had 280 pass attempts and 264 rush attempts. He only threw for 4,000 yard with a 60% completion percentage in his rookie NFL season.
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We get it, you don't like him. You like Tannehill. Making baseless comparisons doesn't make your argument any stronger.
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The spread offense argument is actually a legitimate argument. Unlike the running QB argument.
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RG3 is talented as Hell, but I have to say the spread offense concerns me big time.
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Pats? Check. Saints? Check. Lions? Check. GB? Maybe not as much but seems as though they operate out of the gun a lot. My point is that I'm not sure I buy much anymore that the spread is vastly different from the NFL. |
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