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Old 06-08-2012, 03:39 AM  
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Daboll: Matt Cassel is a winner
Holy shit. The propganda machine is churning.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...-new-chiefs-oc

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Matt Cassel has had an up-and-down three-season run with the Kansas City Chiefs, but new offensive coordinator Brian Daboll believes he inherited a winner at the quarterback position.

Cassel led the New England Patriots to an 11-5 record after Tom Brady wrecked his knee in Week 1 of the 2008 season. He later piloted the Chiefs to a 10-6 mark and an AFC West title in 2010. Cassel has never won a playoff game -- in fact, he played terribly against the Ravens in his only postseason start -- but Daboll sees a player who knows how to lead his team.


"He's been a winner," Daboll told reporters Thursday, according to ESPN.com. "He's had two 10-plus win seasons. I did a study just this offseason about 10-plus-win quarterbacks, which is what you're defined by, obviously. There's been nine of them in the last four years that have had two or more 10-plus win seasons in the regular season, and Matt is one of them.

"The other ones being Brady, (Drew) Brees, (Aaron) Rodgers, Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Eli (Manning), (Joe) Flacco, (Matt) Ryan, so he's been a winner. He works his tail off in the classroom. I think he's done a good job in these OTAs, and I'm looking forward to working with him."

Daboll finds a creative way to lump Cassel in with a group of the game's best quarterbacks, but he does leave out the big picture. Despite those 10-plus win seasons, Cassel is a pedestrian 28-26 in games he's started overall.

If you really are defined by your record, this seems about right.
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Old 06-08-2012, 07:22 AM   #31
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Oh noes, the offensive coordinator didn't badmouth the starting QB. Oh noes.
yeah, i know.
like we said he's just trying to polish a turd, hoping we wont notice the smell..
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Old 06-08-2012, 07:23 AM   #32
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Oh noes, the offensive coordinator didn't badmouth the starting QB. Oh noes.
Of course that is all it is. Doesn't change the fact it is annoying as hell though.
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Old 06-08-2012, 07:50 AM   #33
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Brady, (Drew) Brees, (Aaron) Rodgers, Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Eli (Manning), (Joe) Flacco, (Matt) Ryan, Mark Casshole


One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just does'nt belong.
That was going to be my post, good job.
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Old 06-08-2012, 07:51 AM   #34
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Oh noes, the offensive coordinator didn't badmouth the starting QB. Oh noes.
I never expected him to bad mouth the QB. I'm disappointed that they have to have the new OC come out and cherry pick stats in a sad attempt to somehow make it sound like Cassel is an elite QB.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:01 AM   #35
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I never expected him to bad mouth the QB. I'm disappointed that they have to have the new OC come out and cherry pick stats in a sad attempt to somehow make it sound like Cassel is an elite QB.
Not an elite QB. Just a winner.

He does have a winning attitude.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:06 AM   #36
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I never expected him to bad mouth the QB. I'm disappointed that they have to have the new OC come out and cherry pick stats in a sad attempt to somehow make it sound like Cassel is an elite QB.
He's supporting his QB. I'm sure it would work wonders if he browbeat the guy to the press.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:26 AM   #37
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:26 AM   #38
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28-26 is average. Average doesn't equate to a winner.
Average isn't the same league as Brees, Brady, Rogers, Manning, Roethlistberger, etc..

How about he has been on good teams? And he has had all the support in the world. How about he hasn't beaten a playoff team or teams with a winning record. Yeah he is some winner alright. **** you Chiefs. Seriously.
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:00 AM   #39
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28-26 is average. Average doesn't equate to a winner.
Average isn't the same league as Brees, Brady, Rogers, Manning, Roethlistberger, etc..

How about he has been on good teams? And he has had all the support in the world. How about he hasn't beaten a playoff team or teams with a winning record. Yeah he is some winner alright. **** you Chiefs. Seriously.
No isnt what championship franchises look for, but in KC its ring of fame worthy...

All Chiefs fans want it 8-8 and make some "noise" in the playoffs.
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:09 AM   #40
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He's supporting his QB. I'm sure it would work wonders if he browbeat the guy to the press.
Exactly. Did Daboll call a PC to proclaim Cassel in a hall of famer? or was he asked about him?

To keep getting angry at coaches saying positive things about Cassel is pointless. They are going to have his back because he is the starting QB. If Stanzi were to win the starting QB job, they'd talk about how good Stanzi is. Sure he's cherry picking, those are the only cherries he has to pick. Most of the other cherries are rotten and mushy.

He's using what he's got, Cassel DID QB two 10 plus win teams. It doesn't matter if the competition was bad, or the team around him was great. The coaches aren't going to make a case for Cassel being bad in the public, even if they believe he isn't good. Their job isn't to please the ABC crowd, they have to get the players they have ready, one way to make sure that doesn't happen would be to bash the starting QB in the press.
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Daboll is an idiot.

Remember what Charlie Weis said about Cassel?

There's a man to respect.
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:20 AM   #42
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Daboll is an idiot.

Remember what Charlie Weis said about Cassel?

There's a man to respect.
Weis said he was there to fix the QB. I'll bet based on Cassels 2010 he feels he did that.

What should a coach who doesn't get a say in who starts say about his starting QB, when asked directly, what do you think of Matt Cassel?
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Just say something generic that no one will care about.

Don't insult our intelligence.
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I'll say it's a mistake to compare Cassel, or any average QB, to great or really good QB's. It does them no favors.
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