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Old 07-20-2012, 01:30 AM  
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Welker’s Loyalty Not Returned By Patriots
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Wes Welker learned a valuable lesson this week. He learned that when it comes to doing business with the New England Patriots, that loyalty isn’t a two-way street.

Welker learned Monday at 4pm that the Patriots were not interested in giving him a lucrative multi-year contract like the one he was seeking. Instead, they were happy to pony up the $9.5 million in salary this season to pay him as their “franchise” player.

Yes, when it comes to the business of football, the New England Patriots mean business. They will pay whom they want to pay and how much they want to pay them and nothing more. Wes Welker learned this the hard way.

In the National Football League, a player’s leverage when it comes to getting paid is the threat of holding out is they do not receive the deal that they want. Welker knew this, but made it clear that he would not hold out if he could not reach a long-term deal with New England and, instead, he signed the franchise tender.

Welker did this because he is a man of principle. He assumed that showing a little loyalty to the Patriots might buy him a little in return from the organization. Fat chance!

Since 2007, no receiver in the NFL has had more receptions than Welker including a league-leading 122 catches last season. Some might argue that he is a product of the Patriots’ system and playing alongside Tom Brady. Fair enough. But he has just concluded a 5-year, $18 million contract, a deal he outperformed by a large margin.

But the Patriots don’t care about what you did yesterday. They want to know what you can do for them tomorrow. And, obviously, they have some questions as to how long the 31-year old Welker can perform at such a high level.

No one epitomizes the “Patriot Way” of doing things more than Welker. He is a hard-working, selfless player who says and does the right thing. At the end of the 2009 season, he suffered a torn ACL leaving many to wonder how he would perform after having surgery. Two seasons, 208 receptions, 2,417 yards and 16 touchdowns later, I think we have our answer.

There have been many players who have given into the Patriots in contract negotiations because of their desire to remain a part of a winning organization. But there have also been some who have challenged the Patriots and many of them have cashed in.

Richard Seymour, Assante Samuel, Deion Branch and Logan Mankins are a few examples of those who made it clear that they would not bow at the altar of Bob Kraft and, as a result, they got paid. The squeaky wheels got the grease.

Meanwhile, Welker tried to play the good soldier and all that it got him was a 1-year deal.

I guess it’s true when they say that nice guys often finish last.
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:16 AM   #31
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The Patriot Way is a bullshit ****ing philosophy, even WITH Tom Brady, because the only reason the Pats were in the SB last year was a dropped pass. Before that they were getting beat in playoff games constantly, because talent always trumps that ****ing bullshit.

They're done going to SBs, and I hope Welker tells them to go **** themselves.

. 5 Super Bowls in 11 years. An undefeated season until they lost in the last minute of the SB. And you point to 2009 and 2010 as if they suck because their philosphy sucks. Only you...

Don't forget your 8-8 prediction for this year, hater. We'll see how that works out for you.

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Old 07-20-2012, 09:18 AM   #32
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no, the QB is the precondition....without him,all those 'genius moves' and genius coaches' are just good moves and good coaches with no superbowls...

you can win a million different ways with a great QB, without one you basically can't win...

Not sure you need a "great" QB, but you definitely need a very, very good one. Other than that minor quibble, I agree.
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Ya, their drafting has been horrific.

They had three washout years basically. 2006-08, or '07-'09. Something like that.

Since then they've gotten back on track with guys like Gronk, Hernandez, etc. I think (hope) a number of the high draft picks from the last two years will really pick it up this year as well. If so, the Patriots have as good a chance as anybody. If not, then it will definitely hurt.
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:36 AM   #34
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Don't forget your 8-8 prediction for this year, hater. We'll see how that works out for you.

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Yeah, ****er. We will.

The Buffalo Bills are on the rise. You're on notice. Mario Williams is going to break Brady.
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It sucks to see great players go, but it's the ongoing struggle to not overpay players who are entering the BACK nine of their careers. The Patriots tend to pay fair value (though sometimes it takes difficult negotiations) to players in the FRONT nine of their careers, but never the back nine really.
Yep. Steelers run their show the same way. Don't pay talent on the back end, cut before they become an anchor.
Between NE and Pitt there are a few rings that say this is a sound practice.
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Yeah, ****er. We will.

The Buffalo Bills are on the rise. You're on notice. Mario Williams is going to break Brady.
Mario Williams alone will not push the Bills over the hump and into a playoff contender. That defense as a whole is garbage. I'm surprised any FA would want to play in BUF. Probably one of the worst places to play in terms of geographical location and overal state of the franchise in general.
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when a player moves on for bigger money it's just business

when a team avoids paying bigger money it's 'not being loyal'
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when a player moves on for bigger money it's just business

when a team avoids paying bigger money it's 'not being loyal'
Heh. Very good point.
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I can't wait until Brady retires and the Patriots struggle to find a replacement.

Let's see Belichick openly show the door to a player like Welker THEN and not break a sweat
We should trade for Brady next offseason and they can hand the torch to Mallett.
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when a player moves on for bigger money it's just business

when a team avoids paying bigger money it's 'not being loyal'
when Bowe moves on for bigger money he's an arrogant diva who once flexed after a TD according to Kent Babb so we can never forgive him

when the Chiefs avoid paying Bowe bigger money then he's an arrogant diva who once flexed after a TD according to Kent Babb so we can never forgive him
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Not sure you need a "great" QB, but you definitely need a very, very good one. Other than that minor quibble, I agree.
and I mean this as a compliment, but without Brady the Pats are last year's 49ers...

great coaching taking a solid team to the door step...
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and I mean this as a compliment, but without Brady the Pats are last year's 49ers...

great coaching taking a solid team to the door step...
Yes. And if the Pats had the 49er defense we'd have to listen to Giselle's husband giving SB trophy acceptance speeches 4 or 5 m ore times.
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when Bowe moves on for bigger money he's an arrogant diva who once flexed after a TD according to Kent Babb so we can never forgive him

when the Chiefs avoid paying Bowe bigger money then he's an arrogant diva who once flexed after a TD according to Kent Babb so we can never forgive him
IF ............ Bowe has the some diva in him and wants a big market/fame then he will move on unless KC overpays.

We just don't know what's going on.

I get the feeling that Bowe wants fame and a bigger market etc

others think that Bowe wants a better QB

still others think that Pioli is evil and is trying to sabotage the team or something.

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Yeah, ****er. We will.

The Buffalo Bills are on the rise. You're on notice. Mario Williams is going to break Brady.

I agree, the Bills are significantly improved. Had a great offseason.

I see you're exhibiting your usual class in rooting for injuries. If you can't beat 'em, hope someone cripples 'em. That's your motto. Nobody who has seen them can forget your classy threads on the subject.
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Mario Williams alone will not push the Bills over the hump and into a playoff contender. That defense as a whole is garbage. I'm surprised any FA would want to play in BUF. Probably one of the worst places to play in terms of geographical location and overal state of the franchise in general.

Disagree. That defensive line, at least, rates to be superb.
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