Chiefs Why does this team fail to show up? - Page 3

CoMoChief · 09-18-2012, 12:02 AM

Is Cassel the root of the problem here?

If this team gets down a couple scores, does this team quit because they know who's playing behind center?

I mean lets face it. Regardless of what the PR dept at 1 Arrowhead Drive tells the players to say in interviews, you can't honestly sit here any believe players like Bowe, Charles, Berry, Hali and DJ think Cassel can lead this team?

These guys have all been around football their entire lives. They see other QB's around the league the how they play on the field in live action on the other sidelines. Do they like Cassel, or do they think he's a nice guy? I'm sure they do. But in this league being a nice guy and hard worker isn't going to cut it. You have to lead by example for anyone to respect you. I don't think players respected Haley because he was an asshole who never playrd the game at a high level. He ****ing played golf and was silver spooned inot the NFL.

Cassel craps his pants on a game by game basis. Players around the league know this. Coaches know this. Are we really that naive to think his own teammates don't think this? Why do you think Bowe held out for so long? Because he thinks our passing game is shit without him. In many ways he's right. If Drew Brees was our QB...someone that can drive an offense downfield and carry a team on his back to where losing Bowe wouldn't result our offense skipping a beat, he'd have less leverage and he probably wouldn't have held out as long knowing that he would be easily replaced and the wheels on the offense would keep turning.

I mean the guy was given a contract that he never earned, and was given by his buddy from New England, meanwhile we let a guy like Carr walk, someone who had worked his ass off and made a name for himself in this league as a 5th round draft choice. I know you can't keep everyone in today's NFL but what does that tell the rest of the locker room? Sigh....I'm done ranting....this is going to be a long terrible depressing week.

I really hate it when the Chiefs lose...especially on Mondays at work. The day just sucks overall. What I hate even more is when they complete get blown out by (what seem to be) inferior teams, and then the Chiefs players turn around and tell reporters at the end of the game "Well we didn't show up today." Well....WHY THE **** NOT?!?! I mean I knew ATL was going to be a loss in the opener with the injuries we had on defense, particularly in the secondary, but ****ing Buffalo, especially after what they did to the Chiefs last season in the home opener? You'd think the players would have a big chip on their shoulder from last season and would want some kind of revenge. Nope...not this team. You could see it on the sidelines and even when they first came out of the locker room. Stone cold faces...deer in the headlights kind if looks. This team has zero mental toughness and once they get down...that's it. You can almost bet that 14-0 will turn into 28-0 before no time because this team gives the **** up too early.

Does that fall on the head coach. I'm sure some of it does to say the least...but is it also because the players think that Cassel is not the man for the job? Shit even as fans we can see this. And while some of us may not be very well versed in the x's and o's of the game, we all know a horrible QB when we see one, and it doesn't take someone who coaches at the NFL level to figure that out.

htismaqe · 09-18-2012, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

You don't quit where I come from. It's not OK. None of us should invest in a team that doesn't care about playing hard for us.

They're not playing for us. It may be a game but it's also their JOB. Nobody's job is enjoyable when your boss is a complete ****ing failure. And when your job isn't enjoyable, you don't give 110% ever.

Get over yourself.

Black Bob · 09-18-2012, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

They're not playing for us. It may be a game but it's also their JOB. Nobody's job is enjoyable when your boss is a complete ****ing failure. And when your job isn't enjoyable, you don't give 110% ever.

Get over yourself.

The league exists because of the fans.

htismaqe · 09-18-2012, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

The league exists because of the fans.

Pioli has job security because of the fans, too.

The fans may fund the operation but that doesn't necessarily mean the bulk of them are very smart...

KCUnited · 09-18-2012, 07:08 AM

Romeo is a soft bitch and Pioli is an unattentive, insecure chick, but watching Derrick Johnson's lowlights last night on Metro Sports, it looked like he was playing in his first game as a rookie. I'm not sure if he's dumb as **** and forgot how to play in a defense he's been playing in for multiple years, or just doesn't trust anyone else on the field and feels like he's got to fill every gap, but when you're the most tenured guy on defense and one of the biggest problems, it's probably hard to fill that on the field leader role.

CoMoChief · 09-18-2012, 07:12 AM

I will say this team has ZERO leadership.....and the one guy that's supposed to be a leader (Cassel) sucks at his position.

In the NFL...you lead by example.

Black Bob · 09-18-2012, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Pioli has job security because of the fans, too.

The fans may fund the operation but that doesn't necessarily mean the bulk of them are very smart...

I don't like Pioli either dude but, no one is going to give a shit if we beat the Saints this week. Pioli and Crennel's jobs are based on wins and they answer to Clark.

Your whole idea that the players are quitting because of Pioli is really out there.

**Rausch** · 09-18-2012, 07:17 AM

I'm a Pro-Romeo guy but not showing up and not being prepared is all on the HC...

Black Bob · 09-18-2012, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

Romeo is a soft bitch and Pioli is an unattentive, insecure chick, but watching Derrick Johnson's lowlights last night on Metro Sports, it looked like he was playing in his first game as a rookie. I'm not sure if he's dumb as **** and forgot how to play in a defense he's been playing in for multiple years, or just doesn't trust anyone else on the field and feels like he's got to fill every gap, but when you're the most tenured guy on defense and one of the biggest problems, it's probably hard to fill that on the field leader role.

People laughed at me yesterday and last week for calling DJ out. He is really killing this team. He needs to be benched at the very least. I would cut him and set the tone if it were up to me.

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I'm a Pro-Romeo guy but not showing up and not being prepared is all on the HC...

The players play the game.

htismaqe · 09-18-2012, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

I don't like Pioli either dude but, no one is going to give a shit if we beat the Saints this week. Pioli and Crennel's jobs are based on wins and they answer to Clark.

Your whole idea that the players are quitting because of Pioli is really out there.

Suggesting that NFL football players are susceptible to human nature is "really out there".

htismaqe · 09-18-2012, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

The players play the game.

Poor Romeo, he's so mistreated.

TEX · 09-18-2012, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

They're not playing for us. It may be a game but it's also their JOB. Nobody's job is enjoyable when your boss is a complete ****ing failure. And when your job isn't enjoyable, you don't give 110% ever.

This statement is sooooooo true. Anyone who has experienced this situation can relate. I personally have and it sucks - and so did my job performance. The effort just isn't there under those circumstances. Change the conditions and things can change rapidly.

Black Bob · 09-18-2012, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Suggesting that NFL football players are susceptible to human nature is "really out there".

I respect your opinion but I disagree. It's not the same.

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Poor Romeo, he's so mistreated.

If Romeo doesn't stop running that stupid 2-3-6 defense, he can choke on a sandwich like Mama Cass. Why do you think anyone cares about Romeo?

I liked him but he's killing us.

htismaqe · 09-18-2012, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

This statement is sooooooo true. Anyone who has experienced this situation can relate. I certainlyt have and it sucks. The effort just isn't there under those circumstances. Change the conditions and things can change rapidly.

It's hilarious that the REASON given by BlackBob as to why Romeo deserved the job in the first place is the WIN OVER GREEN BAY.

That same game is THE shining example of what I'm saying. He just can't (or won't) see it.

Black Bob · 09-18-2012, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

This statement is sooooooo true. Anyone who has experienced this situation can relate. I certainlyt have and it sucks. The effort just isn't there under those circumstances. Change the conditions and things can change rapidly.

I am currently in that work situation and I don't believe it's the same for these guys. However, how much are these guys directly involved with Pioli? Why did guys like DJ, Flowers, and Charles take contracts FROM HIM if he's the issue? Tamba got the tag and they didn't have to stay.

htismaqe · 09-18-2012, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

If Romeo doesn't stop running that stupid 2-3-6 defense, he can choke on a sandwich like Mama Cass. Why do you think anyone cares about Romeo?

I liked him but he's killing us.

Why do I think you care about Romeo?

Because until this very post, you've literally blamed every person on the field but him.

09-18-2012, 12:02 AM
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8022254	Why does this team fail to show up? Is Cassel the root of the problem here? If this team gets down a couple scores, does this team quit because they know who's playing behind center? I mean lets face it. Regardless of what the PR dept at 1 Arrowhead Drive tells the players to say in interviews, you can't honestly sit here any believe players like Bowe, Charles, Berry, Hali and DJ think Cassel can lead this team? These guys have all been around football their entire lives. They see other QB's around the league the how they play on the field in live action on the other sidelines. Do they like Cassel, or do they think he's a nice guy? I'm sure they do. But in this league being a nice guy and hard worker isn't going to cut it. You have to lead by example for anyone to respect you. I don't think players respected Haley because he was an asshole who never playrd the game at a high level. He **ing played golf and was silver spooned inot the NFL. Cassel craps his pants on a game by game basis. Players around the league know this. Coaches know this. Are we really that naive to think his own teammates don't think this? Why do you think Bowe held out for so long? Because he thinks our passing game is shit without him. In many ways he's right. If Drew Brees was our QB...someone that can drive an offense downfield and carry a team on his back to where losing Bowe wouldn't result our offense skipping a beat, he'd have less leverage and he probably wouldn't have held out as long knowing that he would be easily replaced and the wheels on the offense would keep turning. I mean the guy was given a contract that he never earned, and was given by his buddy from New England, meanwhile we let a guy like Carr walk, someone who had worked his ass off and made a name for himself in this league as a 5th round draft choice. I know you can't keep everyone in today's NFL but what does that tell the rest of the locker room? Sigh....I'm done ranting....this is going to be a long terrible depressing week. I really hate it when the Chiefs lose...especially on Mondays at work. The day just sucks overall. What I hate even more is when they complete get blown out by (what seem to be) inferior teams, and then the Chiefs players turn around and tell reporters at the end of the game "Well we didn't show up today." Well....WHY THE NOT?!?! I mean I knew ATL was going to be a loss in the opener with the injuries we had on defense, particularly in the secondary, but ing Buffalo, especially after what they did to the Chiefs last season in the home opener? You'd think the players would have a big chip on their shoulder from last season and would want some kind of revenge. Nope...not this team. You could see it on the sidelines and even when they first came out of the locker room. Stone cold faces...deer in the headlights kind if looks. This team has zero mental toughness and once they get down...that's it. You can almost bet that 14-0 will turn into 28-0 before no time because this team gives the ** up too early. Does that fall on the head coach. I'm sure some of it does to say the least...but is it also because the players think that Cassel is not the man for the job? Shit even as fans we can see this. And while some of us may not be very well versed in the x's and o's of the game, we all know a horrible QB when we see one, and it doesn't take someone who coaches at the NFL level to figure that out.
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09-18-2012, 07:08 AM	#34
KCUnited Cheat Death Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Land of Drincoln Casino cash: $1928244	Romeo is a soft bitch and Pioli is an unattentive, insecure chick, but watching Derrick Johnson's lowlights last night on Metro Sports, it looked like he was playing in his first game as a rookie. I'm not sure if he's dumb as **** and forgot how to play in a defense he's been playing in for multiple years, or just doesn't trust anyone else on the field and feels like he's got to fill every gap, but when you're the most tenured guy on defense and one of the biggest problems, it's probably hard to fill that on the field leader role.
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09-18-2012, 07:12 AM	#35
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8022254	I will say this team has ZERO leadership.....and the one guy that's supposed to be a leader (Cassel) sucks at his position. In the NFL...you lead by example. __________________
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