Chiefs Al Saunders - Page 3

mcan · 10-28-2012, 11:14 PM

Go get him. Romeo needs to be gone tomorrow morning. This team has been dog shit since Vermeil left, and has reaped the just desserts of screwing over Saunders. I get that Carl wanted to go back to Martyball and Herm seemed like the closest thing. And I get that Clark wanted to mimic the Patriots and turn this franchise around. But ultimately, having a 'philosophy' isn't going to win or lose games. You need coaches capable of making players better and putting them in perfect position to attack the other team, and players capable of executing that vision. Much like a film. A movie needs a great director AND fantastic actors, all at the top of their game if it is to be truly great. This team truly has some great actors. They need director.

Simply Red · 10-28-2012, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fire_egoli

we'd be minus charles, carr, flowers, albert, bowe, hali

would we still have Dante Hall though? BOOM! s'what I thought!

**J Diddy** · 10-28-2012, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

Well considering this is officially the crappiest offense to ever grace the field, I could live with it.

I'm just not buying that we can be that offensively inept in one offseason. Seriously, we lost weigmann on offense. I have come to the conclusion that Daboll is shit.

Mojo Jojo · 10-28-2012, 11:50 PM

Al has next to nothing on his own...he rides the coat tails of others. When are Chiefs fans ever going to realize that?

Imon Yourside · 10-28-2012, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

I'm just not buying that we can be that offensively inept in one offseason. Seriously, we lost weigmann on offense. I have come to the conclusion that Daboll is shit.

Well of course Daboll blows but C'mon it isn't like we all loved Cassel last year or for that matter much of anyone outside of Charles/Bowe.

mcan · 10-28-2012, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Don't forget Mike Solari. He was a huge part of that, and usually designed the run attack. Look what he's doing now in San Francisco. They're averaging almost 6 yards a carry... as a team.

Solari is pretty amazing. But Saunders blocking scheme was completely different than what we ran under solari for years. As I recall we tried a short stint with solari as oc, and that went pretty terribly. That said, I think he is a great line coach and did an awesome job of adjusting to Saunders.

Imon Yourside · 10-28-2012, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo

Al has next to nothing on his own...he rides the coat tails of others. When are Chiefs fans ever going to realize that?

I'll take it, where do i sign?

**The Bad Guy** · 10-28-2012, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

Because it was the last time we were worth a flying Fukushima.

So what? The only way to future success is to go back in time?

There's plenty of qualified coaches that aren't 100 years old that could be good for this team.

Imon Yourside · 10-28-2012, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

So what? The only way to future success is to go back in time?

There's plenty of qualified coaches that aren't 100 years old that could be good for this team.

I want someone who will come in and get us winning and playoff bound right away. No more projects, we need stability at this point. We are THE laughing stock of the league.

**J Diddy** · 10-28-2012, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

Well of course Daboll blows but C'mon it isn't like we all loved Cassel last year or for that matter much of anyone outside of Charles/Bowe.

I don't think they're that bad except every option at quarterback. The options at quarterback magnify every weakness this team has. I mean, ****, this is like the conservative play of marty ball but with an ass ton of turnovers.

**The Bad Guy** · 10-28-2012, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

I want someone who will come in and get us winning and playoff bound right away. No more projects, we need stability at this point. We are THE laughing stock of the league.

Al Saunders made the playoffs once calling this offense and he had an all-world RB, TE and offensive line.

He hasn't been able to cut it anywhere without Vermeil. Do you want to bring him back too?

Imon Yourside · 10-28-2012, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

I don't think they're that bad except every option at quarterback. The options at quarterback magnify every weakness this team has. I mean, ****, this is like the conservative play of marty ball but with an ass ton of turnovers.

Marty was a great coach, I don't see any decent coaches here now. That my friend is a humongous difference.

Imon Yourside · 10-28-2012, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Al Saunders made the playoffs once calling this offense and he had an all-world RB, TE and offensive line.

He hasn't been able to cut it anywhere without Vermeil. Do you want to bring him back too?

I don't blame the offense for that at all, you remember a man with the initials of GR? He destroyed our defense, we had none..zero...nada.

**cdcox** · 10-29-2012, 12:02 AM

Cassel doesn't have the accuracy or ability to read a defense to run Saunders offense. There is a reason most of Cassel's passes go 5 yards or less through the air. Cassel running Saunders down field passing attack would be a disaster. Cassel can't even throw a swing pass, another staple of Saunders offense.

Roaf and Shields were already HOFers before Saunders was OC. We don't have any where near that talent level here. Bringing him in isn't going to magically transform our OL into the 2003 OL.

Saunders is a very good OC who was terrible HC in his only stint. He's never been given a second chance to be a HC. Probably for a good reason.

So to recreate the 2002 - 2005 magic, we would need a new QB that is going to take a year or two to come up to speed. Will Bowe be here? How many years does Saunders have left? How many years does Charles have left?

In all likelihood we are looking at a total rebuild on offense. I don't think Saunders is the right man at this stage of his career.

Saunders' glory days with the Chiefs are past. Forward.

**The Bad Guy** · 10-29-2012, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

I don't blame the offense for that at all, you remember a man with the initials of GR? He destroyed our defense, we had none..zero...nada.

Robinson was here in for 3 years. What about the other 2? Saunders had his moments, but let's get real here. He's not walking through the door and fixing this offense.

Chiefs=Champions · 10-29-2012, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bump

****ing LOL

10-28-2012, 11:14 PM
mcan Apr 13,1949 – Dec 15, 2011 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $9996085	Al Saunders Go get him. Romeo needs to be gone tomorrow morning. This team has been dog shit since Vermeil left, and has reaped the just desserts of screwing over Saunders. I get that Carl wanted to go back to Martyball and Herm seemed like the closest thing. And I get that Clark wanted to mimic the Patriots and turn this franchise around. But ultimately, having a 'philosophy' isn't going to win or lose games. You need coaches capable of making players better and putting them in perfect position to attack the other team, and players capable of executing that vision. Much like a film. A movie needs a great director AND fantastic actors, all at the top of their game if it is to be truly great. This team truly has some great actors. They need director.
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Mojo Jojo Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Johnson County Casino cash: $10013802	Al has next to nothing on his own...he rides the coat tails of others. When are Chiefs fans ever going to realize that?
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cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2211769	Cassel doesn't have the accuracy or ability to read a defense to run Saunders offense. There is a reason most of Cassel's passes go 5 yards or less through the air. Cassel running Saunders down field passing attack would be a disaster. Cassel can't even throw a swing pass, another staple of Saunders offense. Roaf and Shields were already HOFers before Saunders was OC. We don't have any where near that talent level here. Bringing him in isn't going to magically transform our OL into the 2003 OL. Saunders is a very good OC who was terrible HC in his only stint. He's never been given a second chance to be a HC. Probably for a good reason. So to recreate the 2002 - 2005 magic, we would need a new QB that is going to take a year or two to come up to speed. Will Bowe be here? How many years does Saunders have left? How many years does Charles have left? In all likelihood we are looking at a total rebuild on offense. I don't think Saunders is the right man at this stage of his career. Saunders' glory days with the Chiefs are past. Forward.
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