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Old 10-29-2012, 06:25 AM  
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The MOST loyal fans are preventing major changes in KC
I realize that many of you have held season tickets for decades and in some cases, maybe they were passed down to you from your folks.

I know that going to Arrowhead a scant 8-10 times a year to tailgate and hang with long time friends is a great and fun way to spend a weekend.

However, until only 10-15% of tickets are sold for this disgrace of a team, the pressure on Clark to make changes is minimal.

So in essence, all the idiots like Debbie Douchebag who say she will go support her Chiefs no matter what are the ones blocking any major changes.

The best analogy I can give is this: what if you went to your favorite restaurant, they changed cooks, the food was absolutely shitty for years and you keep going out of loyalty along with all your friends. The restaurant stays busy and the owner is still raking in the bucks. The reviews are horrible but who cares he says, I'm making big bucks.


If you and all your friends stopped going to his restaurant, he would start losing money and need to make changes.

STOP EATING THE SHITTY FOOD AT ARROWHEAD THAT IS THE KC CHIEFS AND HIT CLARK IN THE WALLET.

That's what he understands..........
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:15 AM   #31
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It's all the most loyal fans fault because Bob Fescoe is discussing this on 610 am right now!!!!! BOOOOO
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:17 AM   #32
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True, but if someone keeps feeding me a shit sandwich and I keep paying for it, shame on me.
You have nothing to give up, yet you blame long time season ticket holders and expect them to give up their tickets?

You expect people that have had tickets in their family for 40 years to give up their tickets for a temporary downturn? You realize that the Chiefs won't always be bad, right? Giving up long term tickets because the team is bad this year is like killing yourself because your girlfriend broke up with you. It is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:18 AM   #33
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You have nothing to give up, yet you blame long time season ticket holders and expect them to give up their tickets?

You expect people that have had tickets in their family for 40 years to give up their tickets for a temporary downturn? You realize that the Chiefs won't always be bad, right? Giving up long term tickets because the team is bad this year is like killing yourself because your girlfriend broke up with you. It is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:21 AM   #34
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So? I don't see that as an insult.

A permanent solution for a temporary problem is a stupid way to deal with things. Expecting other people to do a permanent solution to a temporary problem when you don't have to yourself is a slimy thing to do. The OP needs to grow up.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:22 AM   #35
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You have nothing to give up, yet you blame long time season ticket holders and expect them to give up their tickets?

You expect people that have had tickets in their family for 40 years to give up their tickets for a temporary downturn? You realize that the Chiefs won't always be bad, right? Giving up long term tickets because the team is bad this year is like killing yourself because your girlfriend broke up with you. It is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
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Grow up.

I don't have season tickets, nor do I live in the KC area so I don't go to games. But I would never expect others to give up what I am not giving up myself. That is arrogant and childish.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:24 AM   #37
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:24 AM   #38
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For all the loyal fans, why not just all go to the game, party all day in the lot, and NOT go into the game???

The 1-6 Panthers vs the 1-6 Chiefs game on Dec 2nd would be a great game to do this.
It could very well be the 2-9 Panthers vs the 1-10 Chiefs.... then all the die hards will say "see what a franchise QB gets you? derp derp."



I was talking to someone last week who's thinking about giving up at least 2 of their 4 season tickets. Like gblowfish, they've had them for years, and since they're so close to the field and they know everyone around them and it's such a tradition, it's a tough decision.

I know the biggest statement the fans can make is to not buy tickets, don't show up, and even cancel season tickets... but, I don't think it's necessarily preventing change. Granted, Carl stuck around for a decade too long, at least part of it was due to the success he brought... and there's been a GM change, QB change, and coaching changes since then. Now, WTF people are still showing up is another thing... if I had season tickets, I'd be desperately trying to sell them or else I'd probably stay home and at least not waste my money and time.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:27 AM   #39
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Do you know how revenue sharing works in the NFL? Do you realize 2/3 of a teams income comes from the tv deal and much more is shared? About the only way to dent significantly the finances of the chiefs is for everyone to not go to a game?
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So? I don't see that as an insult.

A permanent solution for a temporary problem is a stupid way to deal with things. Expecting other people to do a permanent solution to a temporary problem when you don't have to yourself is a slimy thing to do. The OP needs to grow up.
You sir, are a moron.

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Haven't drafted a QB in Rd 1 since Todd Blackledge in the early 80's
I could go on and on about all the other shit this team has piled up

Temporary??? You have a very short memory or amnesia if you think this shit is temporary....
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It could very well be the 2-9 Panthers vs the 1-10 Chiefs.... then all the die hards will say "see what a franchise QB gets you? derp derp."



I was talking to someone last week who's thinking about giving up at least 2 of their 4 season tickets. Like gblowfish, they've had them for years, and since they're so close to the field and they know everyone around them and it's such a tradition, it's a tough decision.

I know the biggest statement the fans can make is to not buy tickets, don't show up, and even cancel season tickets... but, I don't think it's necessarily preventing change. Granted, Carl stuck around for a decade too long, at least part of it was due to the success he brought... and there's been a GM change, QB change, and coaching changes since then. Now, WTF people are still showing up is another thing... if I had season tickets, I'd be desperately trying to sell them or else I'd probably stay home and at least not waste my money and time.
Those seats are the best seats to help fans get their voice out. Good seats, close to the field, shown on TV.

Those fans can make a sign, wear black clothing, or put a bag on their head if they want. They have a legit shot of being on air and when this stadium is FULL of pissed off fans that says something.

Our fans aren't giving up - they're very, very pissed off...
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:36 AM   #42
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Those seats are the best seats to help fans get their voice out. Good seats, close to the field, shown on TV.

Those fans can make a sign, wear black clothing, or put a bag on their head if they want. They have a legit shot of being on air and when this stadium is FULL of pissed off fans that says something.

Our fans aren't giving up - they're very, very pissed off...
nope, they don't....they get publicity.
How ignorant of people to fill seats for something that is so offensive to them. I can hear the chatter now, if these peope are so pissed, why do they still come? Face it, the relationship of fan to franchise doesn't exist any more. Money talks and all this bull shit walks
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nope, they don't....they get publicity.
How ignorant of people to fill seats for something that is so offensive to them.
As a fan you have to make a decision: after years of failure do I decide to say enough or do I hold out hope that this team will finally wake up and make changes?

That's not for me to tell you.

I was the guy who didn't have season tickets but went to 1 or 2 games a year. This will be second year I won't be going. I'm not driving 3 hours (in good weather) and then spending that jack to leave pissed off.

I can stay in town and just take my mother out to dinner and be home before dark if that's the desired effect.

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I can hear the chatter now, if these peope are so pissed, why do they still come?
I don't have season tickets. But if I had someone offer me season tickets for 1/4th the price for next year.

Yeah, it'd be hard not to renew. I might sell 6 games and go to two, but it'd be really hard not to re-up and use that seat to vent my anger.

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Face it, the relationship of fan to franchise doesn't exist any more.
This GM flat out doesn't care what the fan things. We are ignorant proles. Useful idiots.

And we aren't going to hurt Clark's pocketbook. Dude has nothing to worry about. Empty seats aren't going to hurt this guy a bit...
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One thing we can't deny with Carl, he had a good relationship with the fan base. He made the city/region a part of the team. With Pioli the fan base feels so distant and unwelcome. It is like he much rather play the games in a empty lot.

That should be one of Clark's big attribute in finding the next GM... get someone that is great with PR and making the fan base feel welcomed. Open things up again.... No more locked gates and shades down!!!!
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This GM flat out doesn't care what the fan things. We are ignorant proles. Useful idiots.

And we aren't going to hurt Clark's pocketbook. Dude has nothing to worry about. Empty seats aren't going to hurt this guy a bit...
empty seats is blackout...big dent in organization pocket books. You got to meet payroll and all those other expenses. Empty seats hurt. Why do they so frantically try to sell unsold seats? I got emails galore asking me to buy season tickets.
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