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Old 11-28-2012, 10:44 PM  
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If the draft were tomorrow, how many guys would be in play as a No. 1 pick?

Kiper: On my current Big Board, I see five that make sense, with the possibility of seven if we include a quarterback craze factoring in. The five guys I see with value in that range are :

• Jarvis Jones, a brilliant, relentless pass-rusher out of Georgia;

• Manti Te'o, the prototype middle linebacker out of Notre Dame (a very high standing for an interior linebacker, I admit);

• Star Lotulelei, the best defensive tackle in the class, who plays at Utah;

• Luke Joeckel, the best left tackle in the class, of Texas A&M; and

• Damontre Moore, also of Texas A&M, and a rival to Jones as the best current pass-rusher on my board.

The curveballs are the quarterbacks. If a team falls in love with a QB, we know the history. They go at No. 1 an awful lot.
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How does the 2013 QB class stack up to the 2012 class?

McShay: It's early in the process and there's still a lot of tape that needs to be watched. A year ago at this time, I didn't think much of Ryan Tannehill. Come April 1, I really liked him as a top-10 pick.

There's no one right now who I'd sit at a table and fight for, but I still haven't done all the tape. Last year at this time, I mentioned that I liked Tannehill's potential more than I liked Matt Barkley's. And I still believe that's the truth. That's not to say Barkley's a horrible quarterback, and I think it's highly likely he's a first-round draft pick. I think the same of Geno Smith, and there are obvious weaknesses in their games right now.

For both of them, it comes down to finding the right fit and making a decision based on how high the potential is for what that team does. I think Barkley will only be successful in a West Coast offense where you can limit the amount of down-the-field throws, and his vertical accuracy isn't that good.

With Smith, I think he's still developing as a quarterback. He's a smart kid, he works unbelievably hard and he has all the intangibles you're looking for, but a little bit like Christian Ponder, he didn't always transfer that information on the field. Ponder would often lock in on his initial read, and I think there's a lot of the same questions about Smith.

This class better resembles the 2011 class than the 2012 class.
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Which team is in line to make the biggest splash?

Kiper: Even before we know the draft order, two teams come to mind. Congrats, Missouri! Rams and Chiefs fans should plan to get to Radio City.

For the Rams, it's a matter of volume. Right now, they're the only team in line to have two first-round picks thanks to getting two future first-rounders in the deal that allowed the Redskins to grab RG3. Those picks would be at Nos. 13 and 15 overall if the draft were held tomorrow. That's major impact potential, and this for a team that already has a glut of young talent, particularly on defense.

Kansas City is also in line to deliver a huge splash. The Chiefs could draft No. 1 overall, and quarterback is a huge need. Right now, I don't have a QB rated among my top 20 overall players, but when that position is a major need, sometimes the value equation changes. That said, what if the Chiefs were to take Te'o with their first pick, and then target value at quarterback early in Round 2, landing them Smith, Barkley, Tyler Wilson, a talent like Mike Glennon or a high-ceiling project like Logan Thomas? It's so early that the QB evaluations will change a great deal (think of where RG3 was last year before the combine and workout process) and K.C. will have time to figure out the value at that early pick. But for splash, they're an early candidate.
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:46 PM   #31
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Akili Smith, Tim Couch, Cade McNown, Ryan Leaf, David Klingler, Joey Harrington, JaMarcus Russell, Jim Drukenmiller, Dan McGwire, Todd Marinovich, Heath Shuler all say "HI!" (just to mention a few first round QB busts).

Not to mention Blackledge.
Don't forget Tim Tebow
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:47 PM   #32
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You know what I might do tomorrow?

Go through the last 7 or 8 years of first round quarterbacks and post Kipers takes on them in November.

You have a better chance at closing your eyes and throwing darts at a board and picking good players...seriously. I always wonder how the guy is so high on the tv draftnik totem pole.
He was the first one to do this shit, that's why.

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Old 11-28-2012, 11:47 PM   #33
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Actually, all of these QBs are VASTLY different from one another. Each one has vastly different strengths and weaknesses, and each one would probably do best in a different system.

I understand it's in the nature of Chiefs fans to bitch about ****ing everything, but come on. NFL Draft day this year is going to be ****ing Christmas. **** Andrew Luck and his ugly ass cancer coach team. I hope he gets AIDS and dies. The Chiefs are getting a ****ing QB.

Cheer the **** up.
im going to find this quote on the small chance a Grinch (Pioli) ruins your christmas (draft day) and DOESNT draft any of these QBs. Boy you wont be cheered up then lol
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:48 PM   #34
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Akili Smith, Tim Couch, Cade McNown, Ryan Leaf, David Klingler, Joey Harrington, JaMarcus Russell, Jim Drukenmiller, Dan McGwire, Todd Marinovich, Heath Shuler all say "HI!" (just to mention a few first round QB busts).

Not to mention Blackledge.
How about sticking to the years after the rule changes...
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:49 PM   #35
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im going to find this quote on the small chance a Grinch (Pioli) ruins your christmas (draft day) and DOESNT draft any of these QBs. Boy you wont be cheered up then lol
Don't be silly. The very second I find out that Pioli is still the team's GM next year, I'm selling/donating all my Chiefs clothes, boxing up my Len Dawson autographed HOF football in the basement, and never caring about this sad shit of a team ever a****inggain
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:50 PM   #36
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Don't forget Tim Tebow
Well the Broncos did win a playoff game with TT. But yah, Josh McIdiot was stupid to take him in the first.
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He was the first one to do this shit, that's why.

A reeruned Dick Clark isn't the best person to ring in New Years. Why did he get the gig those last few years of his life?
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:51 PM   #38
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How about sticking to the years after the rule changes...
Which rule changes?
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Well the Broncos did win a playoff game with TT. But yah, Josh McIdiot was stupid to take him in the first.
And hey... the Lions don't get to draft Matt Stafford if they don't first take a shot on Joey Harrington.

Gotta start somewhere. Should our top guy bust out, we'll just try again until we get it right. And once we get a QB, that's pretty much half the team. We won't even need all the good Herm players, who could be retired by then. Just gotta go find some new ones, that's all.

Building an NFL team can now be exclusively boiled down to: "Get a QB or Get the **** out." We'll, we're getting ours this year after waiting for the reload when Blackledge washed out in 1987
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Don't be silly. The very second I find out that Pioli is still the team's GM next year, I'm selling/donating all my Chiefs clothes, boxing up my Len Dawson autographed HOF football in the basement, and never caring about this sad shit of a team ever a****inggain
That will be a sad day if I have to do that. I would have to get rid of my #11 Grbac jersey.

But I'd get over it.
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And hey... the Lions don't get to draft Matt Stafford if they don't first take a shot on Joey Harrington.

Gotta start somewhere. Should our top guy bust out, we'll just try again until we get it right. And once we get a QB, that's pretty much half the team. We won't even need all the good Herm players, who could be retired by then. Just gotta go find some new ones, that's all.

Building an NFL team can now be exclusively boiled down to: "Get a QB or Get the **** out." We'll, we're getting ours this year after waiting for the reload when Blackledge washed out in 1987
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That will be a sad day if I have to do that. I would have to get rid of my #11 Grbac jersey.

But I'd get over it.
still hanging on to the #10 Copper jersey, so there's something at least
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It'd be cool if there was a way we could get Te'o AND Geno. Don't see it happening though. Pioli is gonna **** this all up isn't he....
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Man it will be crazy if we don't sign or tag Albert, then draft an LT with our first and then take Glennon or Jones with our 2cd.
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